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Discussion in 'Model S' started by aus, Dec 3, 2015.
I'm pretty sure Elon's McLaren F1 didn't have the FOB profiles either. :biggrin:
Unfortunately her retaliatory arsenal is more stocked than mine so I'd lose that battle in other ways :crying:
I think its fair to say that this is a feature that could and should be included in the car based on the discussion in the thread.
On a constructive note: does anyone know if this suggestion has been officially submitted to Tesla's engineers and product designers?
I would bet a lot of money that each key fob already had a unique identifier on it. And implementing an "auto exit" profile of some kind doesn't even require that.
I'd like to hear how I'm suppose to get in the car to select my profile when I can't get in under my wife's profile?
Again, if there was a button to select profile on the door or at the seat, like other premium cars, I could just push that and this thread wouldn't exist. I don't mind doing that at all, though it's still very 10 years ago.
Well, there is always this method which worked just fine for our family and even if it's so last century still simply gets the job done. It's also nice if it's a company car that several people use.
What it really needs to do -
1). Set the drivers seat to the profile that opened the drivers door.
2). Self the radio presets to my wife's profile if she is nearby/in have car regardless of driver.
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Totally agree, but so First World/1% problems. My sister didn't even know what the round circles are on the bumpers. I seriously thought all cars had parking sensors by now! And she has a "just a few years ago" Jeep. But, a Jeep. Sigh.
That's the most troubling to me. You could be standing near the car, or even in a restaurant by a window near your car and someone could get in and drive off. Somehow my last car would not start even if I left my keys sitting on the roof of the car. It "knew" the key fob was outside somehow.
The issues above would be solved by implementing a system that works like what brkaus says:
This is already what other manufacturers, like Ford, do. On our Fusion Energi, the car doesn't begin searching for a key fob until someone touches a door handle. Once someone grabs either rear door handle or the front passenger door handle, the car searches for a fob to decide if it should unlock, if any fob is found the car will unlock. When someone grabs the driver's door handle, an extra step happens, the car determines which fob is closest to the antenna on the driver's side of the car & adjusts the seat position based on what is programmed for the fob that it finds. If the nearest fob has no memory seat position programmed, the seat will not move.
In the case of the Model S, I'd think that Tesla could implement something similar. Door handles auto present & the car auto unlocks when any fob is in the vicinity, but once someone grabs the driver's door handle, do a quick search to determine which fob is closest to the driver's door & adjust the seat to the profile associated with that fob. This should solve all of the multiple fobs nearby issues, since it would go based on which is closest to the antenna.
My PHEV Fusion was $40+k TYVM. ;-)
hybridbear and I have the same vehicle. You do have to get the keyless entry package to get as he describes. I think any of the Ford Keyless entry options come this way so a 2011 Mustang may not, IF he didn't get the high enough trim package. Ford is big on packages so you cannot a la cart things.
I'm just happy to see I'm not the only one who feels a car at this price point should have this feature.
Is there some formal request process to ask Tesla to consider adding this feature to the app, or if possible the keys?
Thanks for the feedback from everyone.
Well, the good thing is, it may just show up one morning in your already-bought car!
From what I've read on TMC, there are various options for submitting your opinions to Tesla, from a very brief "bug report" from within the car, to emailing [email protected] (or... did someone say they don't use that any more and have a continent-specific email ID like [email protected]). Either way, there are plenty of questions as to who actually receives these and whether any action is taken from any of the attempts.
Selecting a profile is not exposed in the API. If it was, there could be multiple after-market solutions to this issue, including just throwing it in the Tesla smartphone app.
Unfortunately, since it isn't, there aren't.
My comment about $20k Fords was not directed at you. A standard Ford Fusion in the "SE" trim/package/whatever that comes with Keyless entry and seat memory starts at $23,xxx. I understand you can spend $40k+ on a Fusion, but the point was that there ARE Fords in the $20k price range with this feature.
If we can find an email to direct our suggestion to, I'd gladly submit a request for it and see if we can get enough users to do the same to push them to look into a change!
My wife has her own damn toilet! HA!
Would be nice... but I doubt it. I believe there are hardware limitations (number and location of sensors). I would be happy to be proven wrong, of course. :smile:
One sensor anywhere in the vehicle is enough to implement the 90+% of the time where only one key fob is present, and if the behaviour when both fobs is present stayed the same as right now I would still consider it to be an enormous improvement with no drawback.
For me, the biggest concern is the car not knowing if the fob is inside or outside the car. I'm not sure how that could be fixed with the current hardware.