Wattsisname
MY Red/White/Gems
We are the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ergo Great Britain does not include N.I.. GB+N.I. = UK.
But it's all semantics.
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EAP Not Insured When Driving In EU
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But it's all semantics.
It's not semantics when you're making an insurance claim..
Hence this thread. We need to know what those clauses really mean. I'm of the opinion it applies to fully autonomous cars not cars with just lane keeping like teslas, but having clarity on it will matter come renewal time.
Hence this thread. We need to know what those clauses really mean. I'm of the opinion it applies to fully autonomous cars not cars with just lane keeping like teslas, but having clarity on it will matter come renewal time.
Cardo
Active Member
As per my post:
ALKS is UN/ECE’s term for L3 autonomous driving:
Cardo
Active Member
And here’s an article talking about ALKS:
www.evmirrors.com
ALKS is L3 autonomous driving, which Teslas do not currently have as the driver has to maintain constant attention/control (and a hand on the wheel).
The title of this thread is misleading.
UK approves automated lane-keeping systems for highway use
The United Kingdom has become the first country to approve using automated lane-keeping systems (ALKS) on highways, paving the way for more advanced
www.evmirrors.com
ALKS is L3 autonomous driving, which Teslas do not currently have as the driver has to maintain constant attention/control (and a hand on the wheel).
The title of this thread is misleading.
Wattsisname
MY Red/White/Gems
The core of the problem is absolutely. a matter of semantics if you are looking for a precise meaning. And when it comes to claiming, that's when the insurers bring out the sophistry. I'm on your/our side.
So to wrap-up on this, I believe this is a purely technical provision, for now AP/EAP are not part of this ALKS exclusion as per AEVA 2018 so you are fine.
If one day FSD achieves Level 3 or higher autonomy in Europe there is a liability shift anyway, as the automaker will be ultimately responsible in case of an accident. Therefore it shouldn't even go through your own insurance, hence I believe the existence of this provision...
So I do not see any direct implications resulting from this in the medium-term.
If one day FSD achieves Level 3 or higher autonomy in Europe there is a liability shift anyway, as the automaker will be ultimately responsible in case of an accident. Therefore it shouldn't even go through your own insurance, hence I believe the existence of this provision...
So I do not see any direct implications resulting from this in the medium-term.
But Tesla doesn't have cruise control only.. it's all AP underneath (with or without steering hence TACC).
So they're saying you have to drive a tesla manually if you go to Europe. That's silly.
That’s interesting, so for you only in “Britain” which limits you to England and Wales!
Not in Scotland at all then, as the addition is what changes Britain into Great Britain.
You got a minimum wage phone clerk to transfer you to his brainless supervisor who is not paid to interpret the legal provisions written by qualified lawyers in your insurance contract, and probably wouldn't know an autonomous vehicle is if hit him in the arse.
You are fine with the current wording in your contrat in case of a future claim. That much has been established.
Disregard what the idiot who probably doesn't grasp the difference between Cruise Control/AP/EAP said, because he probably never set foot in a Tesla.
… and probably does not know the difference between Britain, Great Britain, United Kingdom etc etc
Cardo
Active Member
Exactly. The OP has been utterly fobbed off by the “supervisor.” Maybe the OP should have asked the “supervisor” for the company’s definition of ALKS and whether this differs to that used by the UN/ECE regulations?
The Irish no longer accept the term "British Isles" as including them. You can see why, although the term is useful to a geographer, and they offer no useful alternative.
Look at the fuss over the name of the rugby team, the Lions. You can no longer call them the British Lions or the British Isles, it has to be the British and Irish Lions.
The "CTA Lions" anyone?
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