I stand Corrected, 50kw for chademo is... pretty terrible (which the tesla adapter is capped at)
IIRC the newest LEAFs can take up to 200 Amps, so about 75 - 80 kW at peak if the charger is not the bottleneck. The overwhelming majoirty of installed CHAdeMO chargers are 125 Amps (~ 50 kW peak) and a handful exist at 200 Amps. The EA/VW CHAdeMO is spec'd for 200 Amps but they capped them at 125 Amps months ago pending resolution of undisclosed problems.
I watched a Bjorn Nyland video this AM of a Model 3 SR+ at a ionity charger. It indeed peaked at 170 kW for a minute or three, but from a SoC of ~ 10% to 65% the average power was about 2C*. I think that is pretty outstanding, but it also suggests something of an upper bound for current generation cars, whether 800 volts or less.
No idea where you get that. The European CCS adapter is much smaller than the Chademo one, and nowhere near "6 to 7 times larger than a gas nozzle". It's more comparable with the J1772 adapter.
All of EA's CCS outlets provide at least 150kW, same as the vast majority of Tesla's (non-urban) superchargers. Some of their metro chargers will supposedly have lower output, but so do Tesla's urban chargers. And EA hasn't deployed "a couple" 350kW chargers, but several hundred.
It would also require a vendor-neutral billing system and other enhancements. And I doubt very much that Tesla would give up their complete control over the system, which makes it a no-go for other carmakers.
I have no idea where you're getting your size from.. Pick up a CCS combo charger. sorry this isn't Europe, it's right in the name of the company. Are going to compare size of the chinese GBT plug too? because that's relevant to Electrify America, I guess.
I don't think it's that complicated. No change to Tesla cars, an App for other cars.
Also, I think it's kind of a given that most car companies would not want to set up their customers where they are getting advertised to by a competing car company every time they use one of those charging stations and are staring at the big glowing Tesla logo on the charging pedestal. That would be something they would try to avoid.
As Tesla starts to get a larger name in multiple industries (especially grid storage) that will be less of an issue. Actually it will be an advantage because Tesla Superchargers and destination chargers are recognized as reliable, many of the other ones are not.
But that is exactly the Bad Thing (TM) they are trying to avoid!! They don't want to expose their customers to seeing how great and reliable and fast and wonderful and powerful Tesla products are! They might consider replacing their car with a Tesla next, and that's not something they want to encourage. This is common sense.
Because it's cross-subsidized. And regardless of the price, some kind of billing system that works with non-Tesla cars would still be required. Right now the billing depends on Tesla's in-car software.
I have. Have you?
They have one or two 350kW chargers at almost all of their locations, which means there are currently somewhere between 380 and 760 350kW chargers out there.
WTH are you even talking about? Currently, all EA locations have a mix of 150 and 350 kW chargers. So yes, all of them have at least 150 kW. In cycle 2 EA will increasingly install metro chargers which may have lower output, just like Tesla's urban chargers.
That's true today. As Tesla gets recognized in other areas, it will be less true. Particularly as the other car manufacturers have indicated that they will not be building any kind of a network (other than having their dealers install chargers--that's not a network).
You keep repeating this. Clearly you think it's true, but I have not seen any explanation of why that makes sense to you. It seems the opposite of common sense. Car makers will never want to intentionally expose their customers to advertising for competing cars. Period.
