Knightshade
Well-Known Member
If we're looking to start throwing barbs here, I didn't question what proportion of users treat their systems as fully autonomous based on a survey of 200 people.
Thanks for making clear you didn't actually read the study.
For example it was 600 Cadillac owners- not 200.
And again the majority believed it was actual self driving.
As a reminder of your original question-
How many people using other systems believe for a second they can activate them and not pay attention to what's happening through the windshield?
Answer based on all available data from Supercruise owners: Most of them. A higher % of them than among Tesla owners in fact.
If your claim was the Tesla folks are because Elon has been making claims about Teslas system-- what is your explaination of an even HIGHER % of Caddy owners thinking this?
Has Elon been shilling for Caddy when nobody was looking? Or is it perhaps time to reconsider your premise is flawed?
Likewise- If you have any actual factual or statistical basis for thinking that sample was somehow heavily biased-- please share it.
Otherwise your dismissal appears to be you just don't like when facts disagree with your imagined ideas of how things are.
I asked how many are, and there are far more users of Autopilot just through the numbers deployed on roads and that alone will increase the overall risk exposure. "Quite a lot" as a higher proportion of Supercruise versus a slightly lower proportion of Autopilot, based on a questionable survey of a couple hundred people, something tells me is quite a lot fewer people using Supercruise who perceive it as fully autonomous compared to Autopilot.
Can you give any rational basis for dismissing "percentage of people who use a thing believing it is autonomous" as a valid measure of how common the belief it's autonomous among users of the thing is?
Because if not it really again sounds like you just dislike the fact all available data shows the problem you were projecting as specifically a Tesla one applies to all brands of ADAS in both studies to varying degrees (and in at least one case- to a greater degree than among Tesla owners)