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Elon: FSD Beta tweets
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EVNow
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So…next Monday at the earliest got it
EVNow
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Here is a disrupter that many overlook that is changing urban mobility. Electric/rental/Scooters and Bike. They are present everywhere on almost every corner and as a runner they are constant obstacles to be avoided. For instance here is pic I took last month of Bank of America building and look what is front and center that I didn't even see because they are so pervasive. Also on todays run I even took a couple detected scooter/bike pics to post.
Plus on Beta I almost ran over one that was left lying ½ in the street.
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DanCar
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He has been wrong on every single long term ( > year ) prediction. He has proven over and over again he is way to optimistic. Anyone that doesn't think he is too optimistic is a neophyte.
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Rain is a doddle. A rain suit is the answer.
A bicycle's enemies are ice, snow, temperature extremes, physical exertion (which makes you arrive sweaty) and bicycle thieves.
E-bikes can help with the exertion problem.
sleepydoc
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Elon is an entrepreneur. Almost by definition they are overoptimistic. If they weren't they'd never start in the first place. I accept it as a fundamental part of his character and temper my expectations accordingly. It's a bit annoying at times but remember, when Tesla was founded the only electric cars were golf carts. If he weren't optimistic, we wouldn't have Teslas and the electric car landscape would be drastically different.
EVNow
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Not if it rains 10 months a year.
I prefer the safety and comfort of a car. YMMV.
BTW, interestingly - Seattle and Portland have some of the largest number of bikers. But most use it for sport rather than commute. Excluding ex-Seattle mayor, who used to commute by bike - and ironically had his bike stolen too
Bicycle champion McGinn’s wheels stolen
Seattle's most famous bike rider, Mayor Mike McGinn, rode a bicycle Wednesday morning into the City Hall parking garage. But apparently preoccupied with city business, he didn't lock it, and when he returned for the commute home, the bike was...
www.seattletimes.com
There is s lot of political activity here to reduce commuting by car in all our "big" cities to reduce congestion, pollution, noise and inconvenience in neighbourhoods.
Some green politicians don't even see electric cars as the future, it is all to be mass transit, e-bikes and walking. That is why I believe the robotaxi concept could be a tough sell in cities in Europe if the political landscape move more ro the green (and brown) side.
For rural parts, public transport is not a good option if it exists at all. But robotaxies might find to small a market to be viable.
Dallas, TX had a rental bike infestation a few years ago, followed by electric scooters and electric bikes. They've virtually disappeared now. I believe that after the novelty wore off, people decided that you still had to contend with traffic and summertime heat.
Nope, will be too expensive for the communities, not enough travellers to sustain criss cross bus routes. But distancea might be within cycling range for most people, especially e-bikes. The cheapest way would be painting a ton of cycling lanes.
EVNow
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That would probably be the fastest way to get voted out in some of those places. Afterall e-bikes are a liberal thing and un-American.
I don’t think Europeans appreciate how much of all this is linked to politics.
Here is what America thinks of that. Todays news form here in Atlanta.
Just for reference here is a pic of the way it used to be and will again and how it looks now below article.
City plans to remove people-friendly project on Peachtree Street
Downtown shared lanes experiment was supposed to signal “beginning of a cultural shift”
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Having lived in a rural area for most of my life, I am always struck by the amount of street parking there is in cities. This seems like a waste of space to me. Robotaxis would allow for a good portion of this space to be converted to other uses such as pedestrian, street cafes, bike lanes or green space while still allowing the convenience of car transport.
Except that all those robotaxis supposedly flooding the cities will need to park someplace to save costs while waiting for the next fare. And there still needs to be someplace for the delivery trucks and service vehicles to park so that the street cafe has food to serve and toilets that flush.
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