Elon says AWD and Perf orders start at end of next week!

[mahagala]

Is obviously STILL not the end of the week.

Running out of time here folks!!!!

run faster!! lol

 

[vigge50]

So, potential theory here:

The S has had a number of small tweaks recently, to help differentiate it from the 3.... and since Elon is so worried about where the top-end 3 fits in the S lineup, he's either gotta nerf the 3, or bump up the S.

So.....


the 18650 deal with Panasonic is due to run out (or did run out last January, and they've mutually agreed to extend). WHAT IF......Elon can have his cake, and we can eat it too? As in: the Model 3 PLRD comes in right at P100D numbers, but now....Panasonic and Tesla have agreed to start putting 2170 packs in the S and X starting on ____? The new pack architecture will allow for faster charging speeds (as evidenced by the 3's out there already), AND a new top-end pack size of 130kWh.

It would allow the 75D to likely be sunsetted, with the new pack sizes being 90-110-130. And it would make the P130D FAST.....or quick.....or both.......



Hey.....I'm just spitballing here while waiting for our announcement.

If you lisen to the call after the Q1 report you will here that they are talking about that they have improved the energy to weight ratio by 30% by lowering the amount of Cobolt. With the information that exist about Model 3 battery I and several others have calculate that the energy to volume ratio is about the same in Model 3 as Model S and X. So the only advantage you get in energy storage by moving to 2170 cells is that they are 8% higher but that also means that you need to redesign the battery pack and maybe the hole skateboard. Now lowering the weight of the cars is of course good but it won’t give us 30% longer range.

 

[Model 3]

Is obviously STILL not the end of the week.

Running out of time here folks!!!!

... or:

It could be that only employees get to configure AWD and performance this week and they just aren't posting.

 

[ForeverFree]

Guess that "end of the week" has to include the ... weekend!

 

[Snow Drift]

??

If a car is built properly the hubs will always spin.

Rolling vs Powered spinning are different.

RWD Model 3
ONLY the rear axle is powered by the motor and spins the hubs, allowing the rear tires to push the car. The front axle merely rolls bc the car is moving, like a bicycle's front wheel, it does not receive any power. (FWD cars are the opposite, just the front axle gets power).

If you lift a RWD M3 off the ground and hit the accelerator only the rear tires will spin. This is why RWD cars can use a one roller dyno.

AWD Model 3
BOTH axles receive power from each motor, which spins the hubs/wheels. That is why in the beginning of the video, the "Proto1" hub (showing front calipers) spins under power...it is Dual Motor AWD, not RWD.

 

[chickensworth]

The longer we have to wait... the faster I expect the car to be

How disappointing if after all this it’s just a mild bump in performance.

 

[Gen3Joe]

The longer we have to wait... the faster I expect the car to be

How disappointing if after all this it’s just a mild bump in performance.

Tesla doesn't do mild

 

[chickensworth]

Tesla doesn't do mild

I would’ve said ‘we’ll find out soon enough,’ but I’m starting to doubt that part too. Holding out for 2.9... im prepared for disappointment.

 

[T34ME]

I would’ve said ‘we’ll find out soon enough,’ but I’m starting to doubt that part too. Holding out for 2.9... im prepared for disappointment.

Oh you can get 2.9, just spend $50K/$70K or more. I want under 2.0 for under $20K but then reality sets in.

 

[juanmedina]

I would be more dissapointed if they don't update the website today.

 

[voip-ninja]

I would be more dissapointed if they don't update the website today.

 

[Petra]

I thought the key was to lower expectations to the point where you couldn't be disappointed...?

 

[TEG]

Anyone got a link to the 3 configuration page? I haven't been able to see it since the day I ordered my 3.

Before you order it is:
h t t p s : / / 3.tesla.com/model3/design/RN#########
But after you get your car the RN# is gone...

 

[chickensworth]

I thought the key was to lower expectations to the point where you couldn't be disappointed...?

So ... in 2 weeks they’ll finally announce the performance version at 4.3 seconds... wah-wah.

 

[shrspeedblade]

Is obviously STILL not the end of the week.

Running out of time here folks!!!!

Elon’s week has 45 days in it. It’s how he is able to accomplish so much.

 

[shrspeedblade]

He’s like the intelligent Chuck Norris:

How long is Elon’s week? As long as he wants it to be.

Elon decided to save this planet because he wants Mars all to himself.

Elon designs revolutionary new transport systems because he gets bored.

 

[EVDRVN]

If all Tesla did was to put another rear PM motor into nose, while adding 300lb to the curb weight, it would be capable of running <10.5 @ >125mph based on the HP and weight addition, assuming a 160lb driver. This assumes a Model 3LR weighs 4000lb now with a 160lb driver and can trap 103 mph. The battery should support it.

Why would they need an induction motor? The PM motor they have is already too powerful to use for an AWD Performance variant, unless they want to stop the sales of the P100D.

It will be interesting to see how they handle this. The Model 3LR is not the performance model, but it does have the performance motor necessary in place.

Cost perhaps and a small induction motor size. The PM motor is maxed for performance.

 

[juanmedina]

Elon’s week has 45 days in it. It’s how he is able to accomplish so much.

Cost perhaps and a small induction motor size. The PM motor is maxed for performance.

I don't want a motor that overheats.

 

[Flekoun]

I would be more dissapointed if they don't update the website today.

Dont be naive

 

[DrivingTheFuture]

For over 2 years now, I have been opening my fortune cookies and finishing them with the words "... In my model 3". Hopefully this is the last 24 hrs I have to do this. I thought today's might be something special, but neither of them really hits the mark.