Elon & Twitter

[AlanSubie4Life]

I’ll give Elon credit…I deleted the app several months ago and now occasionally check Twitter using the mobile web browser instead (which greatly reduces the frequency of checking which is good for me). But in addition, there are absolutely zero ads when checking this way. I have not seen an ad for a couple months. It’s great. Way to go Elon.

 

[Buckminster]

Mastodon vs Twitter:

 

[ElectricIAC]

Sounds interesting. Haters need not apply.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623014136258117633

 

[brkaus]

Sounds interesting. Haters need not apply.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623014136258117633

Maybe should try “instead of imposing my specific values on the world”

 

[Norbert]

I don't even know what that means. A Tweet needs to have a value? (From a limited set of multiple values?)

 

[ElectricIAC]

It’s possible (somewhat cryptic) that he’s implying that ideologically motivated shadowbanning will be totally stripped from the code.

 

[Norbert]

It’s possible (somewhat cryptic) that he’s implying that ideologically motivated shadowbanning will be totally stripped from the code.

So if it violates one ideology, it is still acceptable if it doesn't violate some other ideology?
It doesn't make sense to me practically.

 

[Bet TSLA]

Sounds interesting. Haters need not apply.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623014136258117633

No, it's pretty obviously exactly the opposite. He's being explicit that haters are fine and will be allowed to post unchecked because they're just expressing their "values". And how can Twitter dare restrict that in any way? Free speech, right?

Same behavior, new excuse.

 

[ElectricIAC]

So if it violates one ideology, it is still acceptable if it doesn't violate some other ideology?
It doesn't make sense to me practically.

IDK, that’s just how I read it.

 

[bkp_duke]

According to the data (don't shoot the messenger), sales in California of Teslas grew in 2022 (both in terms of absolute number, and % of vehicles).

Additionally, broken down by quarter, they accelerated in Q4, not decelerated. Apparently Elon's purchase of Twitter and his tweets didn't put people off from buying Teslas, as sales in the most Tesla-heavy location that is also a Democrate supermajority accelerated, not decelerated.

Rob Maurer covers it in detail here:

 

[JRP3]

Additionally, broken down by quarter, they accelerated in Q4, not decelerated. Apparently Elon's purchase of Twitter and his tweets didn't put people off from buying Teslas, as sales in the most Tesla-heavy location that is also a Democrate supermajority accelerated, not decelerated.

We know for a fact that his antics did in fact put some people off from buying Teslas, we also know Tesla dropped prices in December. The CA sales do not show that his Twitter antics had zero effects.

 

[bkp_duke]

We know for a fact that his antics did in fact put some people off from buying Teslas, we also know Tesla dropped prices in December. The CA sales do not show that his Twitter antics had zero effects.

I didn't say zero effect. I said that despite those antics, SALES AND MARKETSHARE in the LARGEST market that Tesla sells cars in, both grew. If the "antics" were horrible, you would expect it to have dropped (when it did for pretty much every other car maker).

 

[JRP3]

I didn't say zero effect.

Apparently Elon's purchase of Twitter and his tweets didn't put people off from buying Teslas,

Except it did put some people off. We don't know what the numbers might have been without the Twitter nonsense.

 

[bkp_duke]

Except it did put some people off. We don't know what the numbers might have been without the Twitter nonsense.

SOME, but not ENOUGH to prevent sales from GROWING, even in pretty much the most liberal state in America.

 

[JRP3]

SOME, but not ENOUGH to prevent sales from GROWING, even in pretty much the most liberal state in America.

Correct but your initial posts here and in the investment thread tried to frame it as zero effect and I simply pointed out that this was not true. Your subsequent comments even agree with me.

 

[bkp_duke]

Correct but your initial posts here and in the investment thread tried to frame it as zero effect and I simply pointed out that this was not true. Your subsequent comments even agree with me.

Agree is quite the stretch. I think Elon's "brand damage" is minimal.

My social circle spans the political spectrum, and only one very VERY far left person I know complained about Elon. And even then, that person still went and took delivery of their Model Y.

 

[JRP3]

Agree is quite the stretch. I think Elon's "brand damage" is minimal.

I somewhat agree with that but I think the "brand damage" is larger and longer lasting than the "sales damage", mostly because there are few other worthwhile EV choices, none really if you include the Supercharger network. Even people turned off to the brand and Elon will hold their nose and buy if they understand the advantages.

 

[ElectricIAC]

Even people turned off to the brand and Elon will hold their nose and buy if they understand the advantages.

“We have established what you are — we are simply haggling about the price.”

 

[Crutonius]

So the concensus is that Elon's bizarre behavior probably won't do enough damage to destroy Tesla. This is now what qualifies as praise for Elon Musk apparently.

 

[philw1776]

I don't see his behavior as bizarre as in the context that is destructive. I do expect a genius to have quirks not usually found in center bell curve folks.