Elon & Twitter

[Knightshade]

(hint, it's not GM, they sold like 30 total EVs last quarter)

In fairness, 30 evs was 2 quarters ago.

Last quarter they expanded deliveries massively, to 457.

Exactly the sort of leadership such folks as Gordon Johnson would bring up... I mean they scaled EV production 15x in just one quarter! Tesla isn't doing that!

 

[bkp_duke]

There are better and more impactful ways to make the necessary points.

Possibly, but it's a key part of his psyche. The guy was heavily bullied as a child, and learned at an early age to stand up to bullies.

Basically, he's not going to back down from a perceived fight, agree with it or not.

 

[advocate8]

What a load of crap.

"Mary you led. You really did."

He flat out lies about who and what company are pushing forward EVs.

(hint, it's not GM, they sold like 30 total EVs last quarter)

So, here’s where you explain how “Mary, you led” translates to “Elon, you and your company suck” and how you’re not just buying into Elon’s ego-driven take on it.

Also... for sure she’s no Elon. May not be good at her job, for that matter. But the endless and enthusiastic attacks her with the undertones of “We all know she’s an idiot and fraud” here in the forum carry a pretty strong whiff of sexism. No one in the industry comes in for that tone the way she does, and there are plenty of real frauds and snake oil salesmen around.

 

[advocate8]

Possibly, but it's a key part of his psyche. The guy was heavily bullied as a child, and learned at an early age to stand up to bullies.

Basically, he's not going to back down from a perceived fight, agree with it or not.

So what. That doesn’t mean he is right. His perception meter is out of whack.

 

[bkp_duke]

In fairness, 30 evs was 2 quarters ago.

Last quarter they expanded deliveries massively, to 457.

Exactly the sort of leadership such folks as Gordon Johnson would bring up... I mean they scaled EV production 15x in just one quarter! Tesla isn't doing that!

15X . . . man, Tesla is toast!

So, here’s where you explain how “Mary, you led” translates to “Elon, you and your company suck” and how you’re not just buying into Elon’s ego-driven take on it.

Also... for sure she’s no Elon. May not be good at her job, for that matter. But the endless and enthusiastic attacks her with the undertones of “We all know she’s an idiot and fraud” here in the forum carry a pretty strong whiff of sexism. No one in the industry comes in for that tone the way she does, and there are plenty of real frauds and snake oil salesmen around.

Explained in the post right above yours. Elon is not one to let a perceived slight go unanswered. It's a core component of "who he is". If you don't like it . . . well Elon doesn't give a flying F if anyone cares about it.

 

[bkp_duke]

So what. That doesn’t mean he is right. His perception meter is out of whack.

If you don't it, don't invest in Tesla. Honestly, the guy is 50 years old. You WILL NOT change this about him.

And some of us view it as a positive. It takes grit like this to compete with the entrenched oil and auto companies, who will not play fair and will attack him at every turn.

 

[advocate8]

Not pertinent. Warren and Sanders are NOT part of the administration.
And are not representative of the Demos. They are extreme outliers on the left wing, with views few in the party embrace. Notice they keep getting rejected in national primaries?
But they are quite handy for folks to point to and claim they are “mainstream.” More internet stuff that damages the cohesion of the nation. Gets Fox a payday, though.

15X . . . man, Tesla is toast!



Explained in the post right above yours. Elon is not one to let a perceived slight go unanswered. It's a core component of "who he is". If you don't like it . . . well Elon doesn't give a flying F if anyone cares about it.

Explains nothing. You asserted the administration was openly hostile to Elon and Tesla. They were not, as I noted.
You weren’t referring to Elon’s misguided perception of the administration. You said the administration did X.

 

[bkp_duke]

Explains nothing. You asserted the administration was openly hostile to Elon and Tesla. They were not, as I noted.
You weren’t referring to Elon’s misguided perception of the administration. You said the administration did X.

OK, keep your head in the sand.

Tesla just got snubbed by Biden's electric vehicle summit | CNN Business

President Joe Biden celebrated ambitious electric vehicles goals by automakers at the White House on Thursday. But he did so without the world's largest maker of EVs: Tesla.

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Tesla who? Biden can't bring himself to say it—and Musk has noticed

Inside sources say the U.S. president has given the EV firm the cold shoulder over its opposition to unions

driving.ca

Why Joe Biden and Tesla CEO Elon Musk are beefing

Biden finally mentioned Tesla in public, but that won't end the standoff between the president and the visionary CEO Elon Musk.

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Biden is back to ignoring Tesla, and Musk is mad

After finally acknowledging Tesla's dominance last month, the President snubbed the EV maker during his State of the Union address.

fortune.com

Tesla, Who? Biden Can't Bring Himself to Say It — and Musk Has Noticed

President Joe Biden calls himself a union guy and a car guy, and he’s embraced electric vehicles as vital to his economic and climate ambitions.

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Biden finally acknowledges Tesla's EV leadership after a year of silence

President Joe Biden on Tuesday acknowledged Tesla and the company's status as the nation's largest producer of electric vehicles.

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Tesla fans cry foul as Biden administration moves toward Autopilot regulations | CNN Business

The question of who will regulate cutting-edge driving technologies appears to be answered.

www.cnn.com

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AT BEST Biden's administration is a classic "passive aggressive" . . . with constant undermining of the world-leader in EVs and renewable technology.

Question now comes down to . . . why are you defending this administration?

 

[JRP3]

Possibly, but it's a key part of his psyche. The guy was heavily bullied as a child, and learned at an early age to stand up to bullies.

Basically, he's not going to back down from a perceived fight, agree with it or not.

I don't want him to back down from a fight I want him to use better weapons and tactics to win.

 

[JRP3]

Martyr complex now?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1526961470562508802

 

[ohmman]

If you don't it, don't invest in Tesla. Honestly, the guy is 50 years old. You WILL NOT change this about him.

Nobody here is changing anything about Elon, but 50 years old doesn't mean anything. Look up the End of History Illusion - we don't stop changing, really at any age. When people are asked how much they will change in the coming decade, they underestimate drastically. And we should all be pretty happy about that!

 

[Dave EV]

I don't want him to back down from a fight I want him to use better weapons and tactics to win.

Exactly. Elon comes off as a petulant man-child by responding to all these petty attacks on Twitter in-kind. Add in his vast wealth and now he looks like a spoiled brat when things don't go his way. And then he wonders why people keep on jumping on the bandwagon and calling him out?

It's a self-perpetuating cycle and one that has no positive outcome.

There are an endless stream of trolls on Twitter, you will not beat them.

If you are a $TSLA investor, you should be worried. Elon's antics will have real, long-term affects on the value of the company. There are more effective ways of responding, but bashing people, posting crap emojis, calling them names is not the way to do it. I also fully agree that it's never too late to change or gain additional perspective on life.

How much better would things be for EVERYONE if all this controversy simply went away, and we focused on just the GOOD, POSITIVE things that are happening?

 

[_Redshift_]

Exactly. Elon comes off as a petulant man-child by responding to all these petty attacks on Twitter in-kind. Add in his vast wealth and now he looks like a spoiled brat when things don't go his way. And then he wonders why people keep on jumping on the bandwagon and calling him out?

It's a self-perpetuating cycle and one that has no positive outcome.

There are an endless stream of trolls on Twitter, you will not beat them.

If you are a $TSLA investor, you should be worried. Elon's antics will have real, long-term affects on the value of the company. There are more effective ways of responding, but bashing people, posting crap emojis, calling them names is not the way to do it. I also fully agree that it's never too late to change or gain additional perspective on life.

How much better would things be for EVERYONE if all this controversy simply went away, and we focused on just the GOOD, POSITIVE things that are happening?

Exactly. This whole circus is for Elon’s vanity.

Where is the original mission? In the trash can?

Tesla may be riding high now on it’s built up brand image and loyal fanboys, but nowadays, brand image can get affected at the drop of a hat. Social media makes information available to those same formerly adoring fans who will have second thoughts about his immature behavior.

 

[mspohr]

Half of Joe Biden's Twitter Followers Are Fake, Audit Reveals

Billionaire Elon Musk has claimed that 20 percent of Twitter users are "spam/fake accounts" amid his ongoing takeover bid.

www.newsweek.com

Probably all bots spreading "truth".

 

[advocate8]

OK, keep your head in the sand.

Tesla just got snubbed by Biden's electric vehicle summit | CNN Business

President Joe Biden celebrated ambitious electric vehicles goals by automakers at the White House on Thursday. But he did so without the world's largest maker of EVs: Tesla.

www.cnn.com

Tesla who? Biden can't bring himself to say it—and Musk has noticed

Inside sources say the U.S. president has given the EV firm the cold shoulder over its opposition to unions

driving.ca

Why Joe Biden and Tesla CEO Elon Musk are beefing

Biden finally mentioned Tesla in public, but that won't end the standoff between the president and the visionary CEO Elon Musk.

finance.yahoo.com

Biden is back to ignoring Tesla, and Musk is mad

After finally acknowledging Tesla's dominance last month, the President snubbed the EV maker during his State of the Union address.

fortune.com

Tesla, Who? Biden Can't Bring Himself to Say It — and Musk Has Noticed

President Joe Biden calls himself a union guy and a car guy, and he’s embraced electric vehicles as vital to his economic and climate ambitions.

www.bloomberg.com

Biden finally acknowledges Tesla's EV leadership after a year of silence

President Joe Biden on Tuesday acknowledged Tesla and the company's status as the nation's largest producer of electric vehicles.

www.cnbc.com

Tesla fans cry foul as Biden administration moves toward Autopilot regulations | CNN Business

The question of who will regulate cutting-edge driving technologies appears to be answered.

www.cnn.com

President Biden's Pick For An NHTSA Safety Advisor Raises Concerns About Anti-Tesla Bias - CleanTechnica

Sign up for daily news updates from CleanTechnica on email. Or follow us on Google News! President Biden is planning to pick Steven Cliff, the deputy administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), to head the agency, Reuters reports. Another official told Reuters...

cleantechnica.com

AT BEST Biden's administration is a classic "passive aggressive" . . . with constant undermining of the world-leader in EVs and renewable technology.

Question now comes down to . . . why are you defending this administration?

Duke apparently doesn’t refer to Duke University. I’m not even faintly defending this administration, I pointed out how Biden is stuck in the deep past on all things automotive. That is Biden’s issue. Not hating Tesla. His staff have by all accounts been trying to get him to include Telsa in his mentions etc.
Your examples above? All you got is “snubbing.” Which means not mentioning. Tesla just isn’t on the old Corvette guy’s radar screen. Not mentioning someone is not faintly the same as attacking them. FSD is its own rabbit hole of problems and arguments. It may well need scrutiny, but again, that is a different discussion and not at all one I’m interested it.

 

[indysurfer]

Exactly. This whole circus is for Elon’s vanity.

Or maybe (just maybe) Elon sees the real danger of having one political party with an authoritarian streak having a near monopoly on our Legacy and Social Media platforms. Shutting down the other side of a debate by labeling it "hate speech" is dangerous and dividing our country like never before and puts at risk the rest of Tesla's mission for a sustainable green future.

Having virtually the entire Media complex label Hunter Biden's laptop a fraud and "Russian Disinformation" along with Twitter locking out one of the country's oldest newspaper institutions (NYPost) for reporting on a REAL STORY weeks before a close election is a big friggin' deal and we haven't come close to a reckoning regarding that level of corruption impacting our politics.

It's even a bigger deal considering we heard over the last 5+ years from Democrats and their sycophants in the Media and amplified by Twitter that the 2016 election was "stolen" because Putin ran some FB memes.

 

[TespaceX]

Or maybe (just maybe) Elon sees the real danger of having one political party with an authoritarian streak having a near monopoly on our Legacy and Social Media platforms. Shutting down the other side of a debate by labeling it "hate speech" is dangerous and dividing our country like never before and puts at risk the rest of Tesla's mission for a sustainable green future.

Having virtually the entire Media complex label Hunter Biden's laptop a fraud and "Russian Disinformation" along with Twitter locking out one of the country's oldest newspaper institutions (NYPost) for reporting on a REAL STORY weeks before a close election is a big friggin' deal and we haven't come close to a reckoning regarding that level of corruption impacting our politics.

It's even a bigger deal considering we heard over the last 5+ years from Democrats and their sycophants in the Media and amplified by Twitter that the 2016 election was "stolen" because Putin ran some FB memes.

Not buying it.

So, then why not another party?

Why the party that has literally worked against Tesla and sustainability?

 

[DarkandStormy]

As for the left/right extreme discussion...66% of Republicans believe the 2020 election was "stolen." What is a comparable majoritarian position among the left?

Don't think I got an answer to this previously. Relevant now because Elon has declared he is a Republican on the basis that they are the "kinder" party. I didn't see Democrats plotting an insurrection. Elon is out of his element here making a complete fool of himself.

 

[Crutonius]

Just to clarify something that gets brought up a lot.

1. Elon Musk is committed to buy Twitter at 44 billion. There is no paying 1 billion to back out.

The Musk-Twitter endgame

It's not that easy to walk away from a contract

www.axios.com

2. Nowhere in the agreement does it say anything about fake accounts being below a certain threshold. This is not a valid reason to hold up the sale.

Analysis: Elon Musk can't easily give Twitter the boot over bots

Elon Musk may find a way to prove his claim that spam accounts on Twitter Inc's platform are significantly higher than the social media company has estimated, but showing that he and investors were misled will be difficult, legal experts say.

www.reuters.com

 

[advocate8]

Or maybe (just maybe) Elon sees the real danger of having one political party with an authoritarian streak having a near monopoly on our Legacy and Social Media platforms. Shutting down the other side of a debate by labeling it "hate speech" is dangerous and dividing our country like never before and puts at risk the rest of Tesla's mission for a sustainable green future.

Having virtually the entire Media complex label Hunter Biden's laptop a fraud and "Russian Disinformation" along with Twitter locking out one of the country's oldest newspaper institutions (NYPost) for reporting on a REAL STORY weeks before a close election is a big friggin' deal and we haven't come close to a reckoning regarding that level of corruption impacting our politics.

It's even a bigger deal considering we heard over the last 5+ years from Democrats and their sycophants in the Media and amplified by Twitter that the 2016 election was "stolen" because Putin ran some FB memes.

This is the ever-popular “Elon is playing 3-D chess and everyone else is playing checkers” theory. No, his tweets on all this mean exactly what they say.
And Hunter Biden’s laptop, BTW, is completely unimportant whether the media covered it or not.
There is zero there showing any corruption tied to his father.
Hunter is a braying, addiction-addled jackass trading on the family name. So what?