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Elon & Twitter
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cdub
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Nor did I. But there's a difference between participation trophies and bullying.I didn’t grow up in the participation trophy era. Some don’t know what that’s like.
Learn to swim, young ones.
Learn. To. Swim.
It must be a remarkable set of circumstances that has forced him to even take this step. He hasn’t had guardrails this entire time and is surrounded by sycophants. Wonder what did it?
The question now is if Elon's reputation can ever be salvaged after the way he's behaved at Twitter. And if Tesla can continue, can regain its positive glow, can thrive, with him at the helm.
I think the only way for this to happen is for Elon to see a doctor, to see if there is anything medically wrong with him (I keep feeling there might be something going on). If yes, hopefully easily fixable. In any case, take time off, see a therapist, take a long hard look at what he's done. Come back after a thoughtful and honest mea culpa. Perhaps as CTO.
I do not think any of this will happen. I think he'll just continue as usual at Tesla, except that he will drag the chaos into there, and no one will stop him.
The other side of the coin is that Elon is the one who made Tesla what it is, and we don't know if it can continue to be the most innovative and successful company in the world without him.
In other words, this disaster is not over.
I hope I'm wrong.
I think the only way for this to happen is for Elon to see a doctor, to see if there is anything medically wrong with him (I keep feeling there might be something going on). If yes, hopefully easily fixable. In any case, take time off, see a therapist, take a long hard look at what he's done. Come back after a thoughtful and honest mea culpa. Perhaps as CTO.
I do not think any of this will happen. I think he'll just continue as usual at Tesla, except that he will drag the chaos into there, and no one will stop him.
The other side of the coin is that Elon is the one who made Tesla what it is, and we don't know if it can continue to be the most innovative and successful company in the world without him.
In other words, this disaster is not over.
I hope I'm wrong.
The key lies in this statement: "... we will remove any free PROMOTION of prohibited...."The policy seems contradictory. You can't link to prohibited 3rd-party social media platforms but in general you can.
Maybe it's just another tool Elon can use to suspend accounts that make him sad?
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There's a difference between Tweeting, "my latest experiences with FSDb are in this video <link to YouTube video>," vs. Tweeting "Come subscribe to my YouTube channel! YouTube is the greatest thing since sliced bread!"
One of those Tweets is nothing more than an advertisement, which should be paid for no matter what platform you're on; every social media site makes you pay for ads.
The policy and tweets are deleted now
EVNow
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Did he ever explain his post alleging fauci is a criminal? Or was that Kushner logging into Elons twitter account while they were traveling together?
Fundamentally Elon's formula has worked well in the past, move fast have a small motived team and a clear mission, make a lot of the calls.
What is different this time seem to be the glare of the public spot light, every mistake is highlighted rather than being something which happens behind closed doors, And the "human interaction" side is a bigger part of the business and more challenging.
Elon just has to recognise when he is better off consulting others before making decisions and proceeding more carefully.
Part of the rush is the need to turn Twitter financials around, he has been there before just not with the public glare and "human interaction" challenges.
I think he has recognised the need for a manger as he is starting to annoy and offend people that he doesn't want to annoy and offend. Before he just assumed he was offending people he intended to offend. That is my tentative read.
He doesn’t get, that he can reduce at least 50% of his annoyance to others by simply…shutting up.
Remember when his tweets were 99% about spacex and Tesla technical progress? He was FAR more liked then
EVNow
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In practice it’s not easy to figure out what is a promotion. People work around whatever is being blocked. It’s like Spam control.
But that is not how it started, anyway. Elon was angry people were advertising their handle on other social sites.
He'd do best as CTO of both Tesla and SpaceX, with CEOs to reign in his worse impulses, and an employment contract that prohibits him from tweeting or otherwise saying anything publicly that doesn't have to do with the technology he's working on.
SNL Elon was his peak popularity where almost everyone loved him independent of political affiliation.
Now even a significant amount of TMC despises him.
No one ever saw that coming. Surely his approval rating here would have been in the high 90's prior to November.
ZenRockGarden
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To be fair - I think plausible concern over human safety is a perfectly good reason to delete tweets.
But this is the guy who DEMANDED we make Free Speech an absolute priority - even when it involved horribly crap that everyone agreed was worth banning.
EVNow
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LOL. Turns out the stalking had nothing to do with Twitter or ElonJet.
ZenRockGarden
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Fair question, and I think the "Tiger Woods" metric applies.
Elon has utterly destroyed his pubilc image and done permanent damage to all brands he's associated with.
His only rational course of action is to go Tiger Woods - SHUT UP, act humble. STOP the activity that brought the shame, focus on your sport - or in this case your core engineering strengths. Go make the Cyber Truck amazing. The Semi truck. Go launch StarShip to the moon and to Mars. NEVER EVER revisit your pubilc stupidity other than to very generally accept ownership of past bad decisions.
And in 3 years, you get to start a new chapter. With fans, who have crossed the magic "Tiger Woods" public memory boundary
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
For the few who might be interested in what Elon has in mind for Twitter, check out this interview from Rob Maurer with an author who did six years of research and interviews with all the key players of X.com and PayPal. And, covers Elon's unfulfilled vision for X.com.
stopcrazypp
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Yep, looks entire policy had been deleted just recently. This link worked a few hours ago:
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/social-platforms-policy
Shows how poorly thought out it was, not only in terms of normal expected functionality of social media (I posted up thread all the other platforms allow you to promote your accounts on other platforms), but also the legal problems (anti-competitive behavior, which some regions like EU have a lot of restrictions on).
Maybe the poll is to get people to create Twitter accounts? I don't care if he stays or leaves and am not going to vote since I don't even have a Twitter account and I'm not creating one.
How will I get to eat popcorn if he leaves Twitter though? Tell me that!
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