willow_hiller
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Maybe he has very high standards. At this point it's been delayed so long that if it's not amazing, it won't live up to a lot of expectations.
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Enhanced Summon, where are you?
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Maybe he has very high standards. At this point it's been delayed so long that if it's not amazing, it won't live up to a lot of expectations.
Daniel in SD
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Probably because it does suck (as evidenced by all the videos!) but, being the eternal optimist that he is, he still believe that it will not suck.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Perhaps "just laying pipe" to manage (our) expectations - re another upcoming not yet announced delay/schedule slide?
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
How do we define "suck" though? I feel like that is a bit subjective. Will Enhanced Summon "suck" if the car moves at 5 mph about 100 ft from a parking space to the curb in front of the store? I would say "no, it does not suck" but I am sure some of you will say "yes, it does suck". I feel like we all have our own expectations and ideas for what we think or want Enhanced Summon to be.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
What's amazes me is that Telsa still misleads potential FSD buyer's with statements that more is available now, than "Really" is...
EVNow
Well-Known Member
That is exactly what he thinks about the feature now "almost does not suck".
This is what happens when you try a rule based algo - when the rules are simply not clear (as in a parking lot).
EVNow
Well-Known Member
It works much worse compared to avg human ? But it is subjective - because "much worse" is a subjective term.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
Elon's expectation is level 5 autonomy by the end of next year.
I will say it does not suck when it works well enough for Tesla to take responsibility if it crashes into something.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
But even Elon says L5 won't happen until the end of next year. Therefore, the initial release of Enhanced Summon this year won't be L5. So basically, you've already decided that the initial release of enhanced summon, no matter how good it is, will automatically suck, since it is not L5 yet.
If they rebrand it and sell it as a vacuum cleaner?
jebinc
Well-Known Member
"Marketing" at Tesla is pretty good. Names/branding like "Autopilot," "Ludicrous+," "Full Self Driving" (aka, "FSD") , are very misleading. Does anyone know if you can "unbuy" the FSD option - meaning getting Tesla to remove, it via update, and then refunding the $6000 paid? And if so, what is the process?
boonedocks
MS LR Blk/Blk 19”
EVNow
Well-Known Member
What good is a vacuum cleaner that doesn't almost not suck ?
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Actually, a vacuum which doesn’t almost not suck would not be ineffective. Probably.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
As a Supreme Court justice once said: I’ll know “suck” when I see it!
If it’s a good enough standard for him, it’s good enough for me.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
I’d be happy with L3. After all if it gets in trouble in a parking lot it can just stop and wait for you to get in and drive. I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect people to monitor the system from 150 feet away in parking lot with cars obstructing your view.
The head of the program just quit.
Tesla's 'Enhanced Summon' almost doesn't 'suck' anymore, says Elon Musk as software lead joins GM Cruise - Electrek
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
We don't know why he quit. We can't assume that he is quitting because he is pissed that Enhanced Summon sucks. Maybe he is quitting for personal reason that have nothing to do with Tesla or maybe he is quitting because Enhanced Summon is done now so it's a good time to move on to something new.
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