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An e-Golf really? With that abysmal range? Why not consider the new Leaf? It's much less ugly now and should do 250km per charge.
I'm still on the fence. Haven't preordered the 3 as it's still a huge stretch for me, plus I'm worried EU prices will be higher than US. Gave myself 1 more year to by an EV. But nothing really compares to the Model 3 in design or value (range per $).
sweter
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Hopefully by the time Model 3 hits Europe all those issues will be worked out.
The delay almost made me take the plunge to the S, but there's no CPO's available anywhere
There are some in the UK, but I want LHD as I'm gonna move out of UK before the end of the year. So I guess the longer wait for the 3 doesn't bother me that much, yet.
The delay almost made me take the plunge to the S, but there's no CPO's available anywhere
There are some in the UK, but I want LHD as I'm gonna move out of UK before the end of the year. So I guess the longer wait for the 3 doesn't bother me that much, yet.
AustinPowers
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The delay almost made me take the plunge to the S, but there's no CPO's available anywhere
Same issue here. Even if I wanted one, there are no CPO cars available anymore. They got rid of them last year during a special promotion.
Yes, really. Why not a Leaf? Simple: beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, and to my eyes the Leaf, even the new one, still looks awful. I am just no fan of Japanese car design. Wouldn't want to be seen dead in one.
The only contender to the e-Golf to me in terms of tech and value would be the Hyundai Ioniq, but I am not too fond of its design (as well as some functional drawbacks) either.
And abysmal range? The realistic range of an e-Golf would be 250km with my style of driving, as tests have proven. Not what I would call abysmal.
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The only one I have seen on-road in San Diego was silver. But I don't get out much. Some friends took delivery of theirs yesterday.
Can you get an e-Golf? In Norway which I'm guessing is handling about 50% of the world demand for the e-Golf they are now saying 9-12 months wait times. With a slower ramp of the Model 3 Tesla can send a few thousand M3 to Norway and still end up waiting for Q3 to reach the 200k limit. So it's not unrealistic that you might actually get a M3 before an e-Golf if you order in Norway now. Of course that doesn't mean that it's hard to find in Germany, I'm guessing you have looked into that.
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AustinPowers
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Actually, I was quoted a wait time from order to delivery of three to four months. And after having had several VW vehicles their predictions about wait times tend to be rather conservative. The opposite of Tesla, who always seem extremely over-optimistic. I rather prefer the "Scotty versus Captain Kirk" approach of saying I will get it in half a year, demanding to get it in four months and then getting it in two
February is not looking particularly good. Likely about the same number of cars as January (600-700). March will be better. Several ships that usually carry Tesla containers arrived in Antwerp en Rotterdam. Also mentions of delivery dates in the forums that I monitor are picking up. Still well below last December chatter. Hopefully we can end up somewhere around 3000 cars for this month to save the quarter somewhat. But I suspect a bit of pullback after the two bumper quarters last year.
One thing I noticed is that this month, we had 10 registrations in Norway from cars with a VIN date in 2014 or 2015. One more 2015 Model S was registered today. Is it possible those are gray imports? Ie, cars sold by a private party elsewhere in Europe and then imported in Norway? Anyone local who can verify? If so (and if the trend remains this high) then maybe we should start accounting for this in our numbers. Otherwise we'd count a number of cars twice.
One thing I noticed is that this month, we had 10 registrations in Norway from cars with a VIN date in 2014 or 2015. One more 2015 Model S was registered today. Is it possible those are gray imports? Ie, cars sold by a private party elsewhere in Europe and then imported in Norway? Anyone local who can verify? If so (and if the trend remains this high) then maybe we should start accounting for this in our numbers. Otherwise we'd count a number of cars twice.
Put in the VIN or registration number here: Kjøretøyopplysninger | Statens vegvesen
Then you will see if it is a "used import" or not. Klikk on "Registreringsdata" and look at "Bruktimportert" (imported used). If it says "Ja" then it is registered somewhere else earlier, if "Nei" it is not.
Do also check "Registrert første gang i Norge" (First time registered in Norway) to see if it is just an old car getting a new number.
Thanks. That's super helpful. I checked a few and it seems they are all first time registrations in Norway, but are 'used import'. I think it is safe to say those are used imports then already accounted for. This means we unfortunately need to reduce Norway's numbers with about 10 this month. 71 instead of 81 deliveries (only 15 or so of those are S's!!! absolute montly low on the S there).
That would anyway be accounted for in the official statistic that will be on-line soon - tomorrow?
Edit: It IS on-line...
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... and it does count 81 deliveries in Norway last month, but they don't count used imports in that number.
Former Opel CEO is now driving a Tesla, his wife an i3:
Karl-Thomas Neumann on Twitter
Good PR. Nice quote from the twitter comments:
Someone asks: Why not a Bolt? - Because there is none.
Karl-Thomas Neumann on Twitter
Good PR. Nice quote from the twitter comments:
Someone asks: Why not a Bolt? - Because there is none.
The European unavailability of the Bolt is one of the major EV disappointments of 2017. The European unavailibility of the Model 3 is the 2018 one.
sundaymorning
Active Member
Could you comment on a few that I have seen, such as 5YJSA7E48HF226505
which was registered on Jan 8 2018 and then listed as new-inventory March 5, 2018?
I have seen a few dozen similar to that over the last 6-months (MS and MX).
What is to say about this? It is - as you wrote - registered as new on Jan 8 2018, and is therefor counted in the official numbers for Jan 2018.
It has 2.432km on the odometer, so it has probably gone as a demo/loaner car since then, and is ready to be replaced by the next quarter.
he is fishing for some dirt, so that be can share it with his troll short buddies in Seeking Alpha and elsewhere, where they can blow it up into a criminal conspiracy from Tesla.
Take this with a big grain of salt, but according to customers taking delivery in the Netherlands this month and getting a tour of the Tilburg facility, staff is saying that the Model 3 will NOT be assembled there. Big if true, me thinks.
ValueAnalyst
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Not necessarily a gigafactory but at least a new assembly facility. Or it would mean paying 10% import tax on the 3. Either would be big news. If true.
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