Yes, sorry, brain fart.think you're right, but for reference ABB calls them Terra HP (not HD).
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Yes, sorry, brain fart.think you're right, but for reference ABB calls them Terra HP (not HD).
Actually, I’m not sure the Baker site was funded by CEC. It may instead be part of the NRG settlement with CA for their electricity market shananigans. EVgo is getting grants for some other forthcoming sites.That is being done at other EVgo sites funded by the California Energy Commission and the Baker site is also funded by a CEC grant.
The only EVgo grant sites I've seen in the CEC documents are between Sacramento and Red Bluff. Those sites are:Actually, I’m not sure the Baker site was funded by CEC. It may instead be part of the NRG settlement with CA for their electricity market shananigans. EVgo is getting grants for some other forthcoming sites.
Yes, I meant that Tesla owners are going to use it, and not only because there are 40 Supercharger stalls in Baker, but because they won’t be able to charge faster at this new EVgo location because all Teslas built to date and likely for awhile to come can’t charge at over 135kW anyway.It's incredibly interesting from the overall perspective of the EV industry so I have to disagree with you there! But sure, if you mean that Tesla owners won't use it, then I think you are right. If it's CCS, I don't even think we could use it.
Yes, I meant that Tesla owners are going to use it, and not only because there are 40 Supercharger stalls in Baker, but because they won’t be able to charge faster at this new EVgo location because all Teslas built to date and likely for awhile to come can’t charge at over 135kW anyway.
I do agree with you that from the perspective of being interested in new charging technology, this EVgo station is fascinating. When are EVs going to be available to take advantage of such high charge rates? I think we are years away from that. Porsche has made claims, but their future EVs are still...in the future.
Why would EVgo spend the money today for such a high-powered charging station that cannot be utilized by any vehicle now or for the foreseeable future? It seems silly to me, the hype and publicity notwithstanding.
For me, their charge costs are way too high. I'd imagine they'd have to improve that sometime in the near future to stay competitive... Or this seems to be a waste, especially if you could build 3-4 slower chargers. Might just be a good way to use the grant money quickly though...It is a chicken/egg problem. Why would you build a charger with capabilities that can't be used yet? Why would you build a car that can charge rates that aren't supported by any charging stations. Someone has to give first or no progress will ever be made.
There is no evidence that this site is supported in any way by grants. It is the first EVgo site with chargers >50kW, so in that respect it has value as a development site for EVgo so that they work out the bugs and figure out how to do it better as they plan to install these units at other sites in the future. The prototype unit in Fremont is the only other known EVgo installation >50kW, but that one is not open to the public.For me, their charge costs are way too high. I'd imagine they'd have to improve that sometime in the near future to stay competitive... Or this seems to be a waste, especially if you could build 3-4 slower chargers. Might just be a good way to use the grant money quickly though...
There is no evidence that this site is supported in any way by grants. It is the first EVgo site with chargers >50kW, so in that respect it has value as a development site for EVgo so that they work out the bugs and figure out how to do it better as they plan to install these units at other sites in the future. The prototype unit in Fremont is the only other known EVgo installation >50kW, but that one is not open to the public.
The Baker site was built as part of a legal settlement between NRG (EVgo’s original parent) and the State of California in 2012. It arose from a set aside pot of allocated money and was specifically proposed in 2015.There is no evidence that this site is supported in any way by grants. It is the first EVgo site with chargers >50kW, so in that respect it has value as a development site for EVgo so that they work out the bugs and figure out how to do it better as they plan to install these units at other sites in the future. The prototype unit in Fremont is the only other known EVgo installation >50kW, but that one is not open to the public.
It does seem like not much has changed in the last month or so.went out there Feb, 3 2017....doesnt look like much progress, ive seen apartment buildings go up faster then this.
It's threads/stories like this that cause me to roll my eyes when people just assume that any other entity (GM, VW, etc.) can effortlessly roll out a Nationwide changing network that is even 1/10 the scale of the Supercharger network. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I will enjoy watching what is the modern equivalent of a 3 Stooges episode...
And also somewhat related: I went to watch a baseball game at a local park, which had a library next door. Much to my surprise, there was a sign pointing to "EV Charger". Figured I would plug in just for the pure joy of it for an hour. To my even greater surprise, there was a L3 Chargepoint DCFC sitting next to the L2 Chargepoint charger I carry a Chargepoint card so I thought I would do the DCFC, again, just for the pure joy of it. Spent about 10 minutes trying to find the magical sequence of: 1) card swipe, 2) disconnect Chademo, 3) plug into car, 4) press start button, 5) check screen for instructions, 6) figure out why it is not working, 7) go back to step #1, 8) lather, rinse, repeat.
After 10 minutes, I just moved to the L2 charger and spent only about 3 minutes jumping through the hoops. Even my cousin who was visiting, and was with me on a prior Vegas trip in a rented Model X, pointed out how the Supercharger network was dead simple. DEAD SIMPLE. Anyone building a fast charging network that isn't as DEAD SIMPLE as just plugging in and walking away is going to be SIMPLY DEAD.
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