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Is actually quite effective to.'overheat' the house with electric heaters in the off-peak period at 5p a kWh
That’s pretty high. Worth checking out. I’m in a 5 bedroom 3 storey house and I’m in IT so have a Synology NAS, Unifi wifi access points and network switches, a couple of Intel NUCs running VMs, 5 or 6 Sonos speakers plus fridge etc, and my baseline is 200W. So 400-500W for someone not running stuff 24x7 “on purpose” seems really high. At current rates 1Wh costs you around £2.75 per year, so your 400-500W are costing you £1,100 to £1,400 per year.I know I'm not an "average" user but I struggle to understand this capped number that hits the media headlines. The figures are based on 2900kWh of electric per year. That's just under 8kW a day (or 0.33 per hour) for an average household. When I was on holiday in the summer and the house was empty with just the appliances ticking over we used between 400/500w per hour. I'm not moaning about my usage, I'm just saying what do these average households have within them to get their figures so low?? It's worrying for many.
I use two 2KW oil filled rads with integrated timers and temp control from Toolstation (£49 each) from 00:30-04:30 and this means the central heating does not come on until approx. teatime in the colder months. Out of interest one of these heaters in my large kitchen only uses 2KWh overnight (10p on go) and the kitchen starts the day at 26/27C.Like others here I've been using my immersion heater overnight to get hot water. Only problem is, it's about 30 years old and doesn't seem to work - never noticed before because I never tried to use it! So this weekend's job is to replace it. Other than the obvious stuff like running tumble dryer and dishwasher overnight, I'm starting to think about the best way of heating the house with nighttime electricity. Don't want to spend loads, and don't want to burn the house down, but a few electric heaters on a timer would probably give a good saving over the winter.
I know it’s none of my business, but isn’t 26° a far too high temperature to have in the middle of winter?I use two 2KW oil filled rads with integrated timers and temp control from Toolstation (£49 each) from 00:30-04:30 and this means the central heating does not come on until approx. teatime in the colder months. Out of interest one of these heaters in my large kitchen only uses 2KWh overnight (10p on go) and the kitchen starts the day at 26/27C.
We have a similar sized house with a hot tub - we were running at around 170W per hour in May when we went on holiday. About 4kW per day....I know I'm taking a hit for the hot tub and the giant fridge freezer. Back in May when we went on holiday, that was around 50p for the day. That's an equivalent of 97p per day run rate on current tariff...That’s pretty high. Worth checking out. I’m in a 5 bedroom 3 storey house and I’m in IT so have a Synology NAS, Unifi wifi access points and network switches, a couple of Intel NUCs running VMs, 5 or 6 Sonos speakers plus fridge etc, and my baseline is 200W. So 400-500W for someone not running stuff 24x7 “on purpose” seems really high. At current rates 1Wh costs you around £2.75 per year, so your 400-500W are costing you £1,100 to £1,400 per year.
Interested in the air fryer plan - heard that this could make a big difference rather than the oven, but need to investigate further....Most usage March-September is supplied by 5kW solar with 16.3kW battery storage. The Octopus bill shows virtually nothing except the standing charge throughout this period although I do occasionally charge the Tesla on IO just to maintain 'fair use' of the tariff.
The rest of the time we use the IO 6 hour period:
We also use air fryer/slow cookers instead of the oven whenever possible but my attempts to coerce midnight ironing, hair drying or baking have failed catastrophically so far.
- 2 EVs charging (Fiat 500e rarely as mileage is very low)
- 9.6kW batteries charging (supplemented during the day by whatever excess solar puts into the remaining 6.7kW batteries)
- Dishwasher
- Washing machine
- Tumble dryer or smart socket controlled large Heated drying maiden
- 5L boiled water storage - heats at 1kWh for ~30 mins at 4.50am, negligible trickle charge until switching off at 7.30pm (then refilled)
- Shark vacuum cleaner charges 2 nights/week
- Smart sockets/timers on lamps etc
- Battery powered lawn mower (charged mostly by solar)
- Battery powered Drills & other electrical tools, laptops, phones etc.
Gas is still the biggest cost - with two nest controlled combi boilers we tend to heat one part of the house until around 20.30 then switch to the smaller system at 21.00 which warms the in-use bedrooms etc for 10pm (one of us could live with room specific electric storage heat but it's been made clear that our relationship would then become as cold as the rest of the house so that's not happening)
I used one of these: Timeguard NTT03 24-Hour/7-Day Compact Electronic Immersion Heater Timeswitch : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & ToolsNot sure you’ll find many smart plugs that are rated for 3.5kW
Maybe better to install a “proper” timer with a 16A or higher rating?
Same one I installed. I did look for smart plugs (ideally compatible with Philips Hue) but couldn’t find any rated for 16A…
My background used to be that but with judicious use of internet time switches, changing settings etc and getting rid of some bad background offenders I got it down to 250. that's 4-6kwh saved per day.I know I'm not an "average" user but I struggle to understand this capped number that hits the media headlines. The figures are based on 2900kWh of electric per year. That's just under 8kW a day (or 0.33 per hour) for an average household. When I was on holiday in the summer and the house was empty with just the appliances ticking over we used between 400/500w per hour. I'm not moaning about my usage, I'm just saying what do these average households have within them to get their figures so low?? It's worrying for many.
26'C when I get up bearing in mind the heaters switched off at 04:30 and the temp will slowly drop throughout the morning and afternoon. The heaters are effectively warming the fabric of the building and making sure the house temps do not get too low at night. I have them set at the lowest power (approx.1- 1.5KW) and they do this for a very low nighttime power cost on octopus go. I do not suggest you stating to my wife that 26'C is too high a temp in winterI know it’s none of my business, but isn’t 26° a far too high temperature to have in the middle of winter?