Of the six, one was Elon, at least two were Tesla board members, and I believe one was Sergey Brin. Not exactly normal customers. Was Kimbal Musk one?
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Firmware 7.0 Beta Discussion
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I understand that. And yes, to a degree, these cars might not be 100% reflective of what's going to hit mass market, but that's not my point. These are not test mules. These cars/drivers are not under any sort of NDA (presumably?) and if the Model S release is any indication, I suspect they'll get a fair amount of press coverage. I can't see Tesla putting out initial release cars to the press that aren't fully functional or have "beta" plastered over the UI. They may be "beta" in the sense that not all features, such as AP, are present, and will come over time, but it would be hard to believe they don't come with a fully functional final release of v7. A very early .0 release, maybe even RC caliber, but I have to assume this is farther along than what early access beta testers have been driving around with.
These aren't customers who bought things off the lot. It's not as if they were invited and the delivery got sprung upon them as a surprise. They were invited to the event and had knowledge of things ahead of time in order to get things configured and to cover logistics and sign a sales contract. I don't see how an NDA as part of the deal would have killed it for anybody just because it meant having the same software that beta testers now have and that's scheduled to be introduced shortly.
Had the software been complete, that would have been worthy of a press conference in and of itself, or at the very minimum would have been part of the presentation, given that some of the things that 7.0 will supposedly have were never demoed in the past.
I can only go by what Tesla said in the past, which was vague enough and had enough wiggle room that anything could be the case. But considering that at least one reporter was told that Tesla plans to release the software in lock step with the S, it could mean that this deviated from the plan, or that Tesla did something different for a very limited, tightly controlled release. It seems unlikely to me that Tesla would decide that a release was final in order to get it pushed out the door before the end of the quarter when they didn't have the level of confidence to push it to the MS.
If these were rolling off the assembly line and were being handed out all day long, then the distinction between whether or not this is considered production software would be real.
Those people are all in the early access program. I imagine those Xs (assuming they ever left Tesla property) have software updates waiting right now which will give them auto-steer. Beta auto-steer, to be sure.
Even their website shows the MX with stereoscopic camera's so I'd expect the Sig cars at least to have AP V2 hardware. Surprised these have AP V1 hardware but perhaps time constraints forced TM down that route.
It's missing on the touchscreen as well if you look at this photo:
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That lightning bolt, second icon from the left, implies that thunderstorms are brewing, therefore you should extrapolate that the humidity is high, barometer is low, and temperatures are in the range of 75F-95F.
Yup, you're right... this image on Tesla's web page shows stereoscopic cameras in the windshield:
Good observation! Keep your fingers crossed but don't hold your breath just yet. :smile: It will be interesting to see if the signature and production Xs have this feature as well as the other upgraded AP hardware we've been wondering about.
Due to the Osborne Effect, I don't think they will announce new hardware far in advance as it could lead to a huge number of cancelations or people holding off on ordering and that would negatively affect the 4th quarter numbers. Maybe it will be like when AP was first released and it will show up on cars being delivered before it has even been officially unveiled. In order to keep things in "lockstep" with the S, I would assume they would quickly add the same hardware to the S once it is added to the X.
I'm not in any hurry so I'll probably wait until the new AP hardware comes out...unless I see a really good inventory or CPO deal.
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Could the new nosecone be hiding new radars as well?
Would be cool if there were lidars behind that nose cone, but that may be hoping for too much.
That's the same triangle single camera that's on the Model S with AP hardware. The upper things are just reflections of the side panels on the back doors.
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I think peoples' point is that there are what appear to be two triangular cameras visible in that image.
There are 2 triangles and 1 circle visible in that picture. Model S has 1 triangle and 1 circle. It could be stereoscopic cameras (my guess), but someone mentioned that they're too close together (Suburu with mobileye have them much further apart, as does the S-class mercedes).
If there are two cameras, which I currently doubt, especially since Tesla folks were quoted as saying the S and the X would in in "lockstep" for autopilot features, they may not be stereoscopic but two different focal lengths. A narrow-field and a wide-field camera allow much greater flexibility than a single wide-field.
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