I didn't expect my post to be greeted with a lot of support since this is a Tesla forum, but for persons considering an EV, I think the Mach-e is a serious contender. Appears Ldub22's facts are wrong/dated: The Mach-e Premium model ($54,700) with the extended range battery and all wheel drive has a stated range of 270 miles and 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. The reviewers who released their driving impressions this week indicated that the 270 miles range is actually realistic (unlike Tesla's estimated ranges -so they are likely comparable). They also said they achieved 4.9-5.0 0-60 times.
To me, here are the advantages of the Ford:
- Better build quality. This is not yet known for sure, but it has to be better than Tesla. At least Ford does dealer prep - where the dealer looks at the car before delivering it. Seems Tesla expects the customer to do this review - thus the checklists.
- Better tuned suspension. Reviewers said it is still sporty and the steering feel is good, but not nearly as harsh as the Model Y.
- Brakes that combine regen with mechanical braking when you press the brake pedal. My understanding is the Model Y pedal is mechanical only.
- A second screen in front of the driver.
- Apple Car Play.
- Appears Waze and Tidal (and others?) are also built into the Sync system - separately from CarPlay.
- Better adaptive cruise - with the Tesla, if you turn the steering wheel the system disengages and you have to reset it. Appears the Mach-e system allows you to change lanes manually and it will reengage as soon as you are centered into another lane (like Hyundai). Also, and most importantly, a future update (it will have over the air updates) in the Mach-e will allow for full hands free driving through the use of the eye sensors on the steering wheel column (like Cadillac Super Cruise). Only works for pre-mapped roads, but almost all divided highways are mapped. Without the eye sensors it will still lane center on any road. I know Tesla is working on FSD, but I think this is still just a (dangerous) experiment.
- Not a single reviewer noticed any kind of phantom braking since the Ford combines sensors with cameras. My understanding is that Tesla is cameras only.
- Home Link included at no additional cost
- Real buttons for wipers and glove compartment (not really a big deal to me)
- 360 overhead camera view
- Roof compartment for sunglasses
- Heated steering wheel
- Kick sensor for trunk
- Rear cross traffic alert
- Many more Ford dealers than Tesla stores for service. The Tesla store is actually closer to me than the nearest Ford dealer, so that is not an issue for me, but likely is for many others.
Seems like Ford read this forum and really addressed all the concerns Model Y owners have been the Y.
Biggest advantages of the Tesla are the cool factor and the Supercharging network. I have two cars and a garage in which to charge, so the charging network is not a big deal to me.
Just trying to be objective and inform those of us evaluating purchasing an EV. No reason to get nasty just because you love your Tesla.
I wasn't being nasty, what a weird comment!
The biggest advantages of the Tesla are best batteries, best software, best on-board computing, over-the-air software updates, best programming team, best performance, and the charging network. That's a lot of bests. For example, the Ford has an 88 kW battery for less range than the Tesla. That is significant.
I appreciate your trying to be objective, but you really aren't, because this product for Ford is aspirational. You, like so many other people, are mixing coming/promised features as if they are actually here. For example, the AWD isn't even for sale within the next 6 months. It hasn't even been tested or had range confirmation. Why is this relevant? The door swings BOTH WAYS. Tesla will be using 4080 batteries by then, and may have moved the range bar, may have heated steering wheel, may have 360 bird's eye view, may have cross traffic alert, may have installed Homelink, and most importantly, may have other features that we aren't even thinking of.. Note I didn't sell any of those "features" in my previous post, because they aren't here!
Have you ever experienced Ford build quality?
Have you ever experienced Ford Dealership technical competence?
Have you ever experienced Ford dealer negotiation techniques?
Also:
A roof compartment for sunglasses? Wow, sign me up!
The second screen is nice, I have one in my S, which goes away tomorrow when I get my MYP.
I have no use for Apple Car Play or Waze. I have friends who say that Waze is on it's way out. I don't know.
The "Mustang Mach-E" is taste-specific, inside and out. But that's MY opinion.
However, when you buy the Ford, let us know!
