PR + resale value support.
Tesla wants to keep CPO value up so they'll uncork them. But if they only uncorked CPOs and made others pay for it there's be a lot of unhappy people.
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PR + resale value support.
Tesla wants to keep CPO value up so they'll uncork them. But if they only uncorked CPOs and made others pay for it there's be a lot of unhappy people.
If this is true then it doesn't seem to be a well-thought out plan on Tesla's part.
There are 90D owners who have purchased EAP. Wouldn't Tesla need to provide a goodwill gesture to everyone?
I don't have car capable of uncorking (there's no love for us original 70D's), so I don't know.
I was under the impression it's firmware only, I wouldn't expect Tesla to provide free hardware upgrades. I'm sure there are people who will abuse it, but I can see why Tesla did it the way they did it.
Just to add to the conversation: Elon recently said that he wouldn't forget the first time adopters (aka first generation tesla owners) yet this move has dramatically reduced the value of my P85... there really is no added value of having a CPO P85 anymore (or a standard 85 either). I fear the value of my car will go down a lot unfortunately.
SomeJoe7777
Marginally-Known Member
So, let me get this straight. We're now going to complain because Tesla is giving something away for free?
In light of this, can someone cite me a hypothetical example of any action that Tesla could take (involving anything) that would NOT generate a complaint?
- Telsa holds back AEB on AP 2.5 until they have enough real-world data to validate proper operation -> generates complaints.
- Telsa activates Autosteer on AP 2 before they have enough real-world data to validate proper operation -> generates complaints.
- Tesla charges for Ludicrous upgrade that gives P85D/P90D cars performance level that some say they should have had to begin with -> generates complaints.
- Tesla gives away upgrade that gives 75D cars a performance level that no one ever expected -> generates complaints.
SomeJoe7777
Marginally-Known Member
Since the Tesla is a highly technical car, the depreciation behaves more like a cell phone or computer rather than a car. Newer technology will always push the depreciation of previous models faster.
However, while the uncorking of the 75D may further reduce P85 values, the P85 value was already depressed along with all pre-AP cars. I doubt it's that much more of a hit than it's already taken.
Xenoilphobe
Well-Known Member
Cause the P200D is right around the corner and it charges in ten minutes using the new battery technology... wink wink..
I talked to a Tesla sales guy last weekend. The upgrade/uncork came up.
He said it was part of the plan to differentiate the model S from the Model 3.
He made it sound like there might be more things coming.
He said it was part of the plan to differentiate the model S from the Model 3.
He made it sound like there might be more things coming.
Don't forget that Elon had the nerve to save Puerto Rico before I get my powerwall!So, let me get this straight. We're now going to complain because Tesla is giving something away for free?
In light of this, can someone cite me a hypothetical example of any action that Tesla could take (involving anything) that would NOT generate a complaint?
- Telsa holds back AEB on AP 2.5 until they have enough real-world data to validate proper operation -> generates complaints.
- Telsa activates Autosteer on AP 2 before they have enough real-world data to validate proper operation -> generates complaints.
- Tesla charges for Ludicrous upgrade that gives P85D/P90D cars performance level that some say they should have had to begin with -> generates complaints.
- Tesla gives away upgrade that gives 75D cars a performance level that no one ever expected -> generates complaints.
gabeincal
Active Member
Sure there is. You cannot wiggle the butt of a 75D, but you can have a lot of fun in a RWD P85.
gabeincal
Active Member
I do suspect that there are more things coming (quietly hoping for an increase of 0-60 on my S75 RWD).
So Elon gave us a nice bouquet of flowers after returning home from a bachelor party.... sure there was glitter and lipstick stains on his shirt, maybe he's just finally appreciating us...
Oops sorry - I should update the sig. I paid the $2K to unlock my 60D to a 75D some weeks back.
I have a 75D - upgraded my 60D maybe a month ago and haven't done the sig change yet. It was just too tempting for $2K - I couldn't hold out.
Shock-On-T
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Didn't you hear? They just made all 60D upgrade to 75D for free!
(kidding)
It makes sense to improve 0-60 to make people DRIVE. FSD is just the opposite - to NOT DRIVE. With faster 0-60, more owners would prefer to drive than be driven. I think it is a classic move by Elon
. Seriously though, the reasons I feel Tesla did what they did are:
1. Tesla wants the MS performance superiority over M3 to be rather significant, and for the majority of the MS owners. I had 5.2seconds 0-60 prior to uncork, a M3-long-range is 5.1 seconds 0-60. This may be unacceptable to majority of execs at Tesla.
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