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FSD Beta Videos (and questions for FSD Beta drivers)

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It's about time for a new FSD beta version but there is no sign of it yet. Version 2020.48.12.15 known as beta 8 came out on December 23rd. There was another version on December 30th 2020.48.26.1 which was called beta 9 but the only change was to give the beta testers the limited goodies (fart broadcasts;)) that everyone else got. It's been 13 calendar days since new FSD beta code so even allowing for the holidays it's time for a new version and a fresh batch of videos showing what has changed.
 
It's about time for a new FSD beta version but there is no sign of it yet. Version 2020.48.12.15 known as beta 8 came out on December 23rd. There was another version on December 30th 2020.48.26.1 which was called beta 9 but the only change was to give the beta testers the limited goodies (fart broadcasts;)) that everyone else got. It's been 13 calendar days since new FSD beta code so even allowing for the holidays it's time for a new version and a fresh batch of videos showing what has changed.


and now the hilarity begins. Elon says a few more beta iterations before it goes to the blessed Early Access Program, and the time between betas will dramatically increase and he'll end up missing on that prediction too
 
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Tesla is going to have to somehow program the car to just commit on their turns. The stop and go hesitation across intersections is unbelievably dangerous. I’m wondering if it’s because they have the car looking for so many different possible variables on turns that the car just freaks out? They’re also probably going to need to add in an audible cue for testers to let them know if the car is creeping or going. Right now it must be pretty nerve wracking at times to not know for sure if the car is going to go or if it’s just creeping for visibility.
 
‘Still basically unusable on unprotected lefts. Driver had to push on the go pedal to make the gap.

To be fair, most humans have trouble with unprotected left turns, too. If an intersection is commonly busy enough for that to be a problem, it should either have a traffic light or (ideally) be partially blocked off or marked "Right turn only" to force outgoing traffic to take a nearby road that does have a traffic light.

Unprotected left turns are generally a mistake unless you're in the middle of nowhere. :)
 
Highlights one of the problems with tasks like this. How do you know when you are finished? How do you know when it's good enough? It's very hard to test in all circumstances because the real world is such a varied place.

Are you talking about doing videos like this or doing FSD in general?

I agree that analyzing 11 videos is a small sample. It may not give us an accurate score of FSD Beta's actual reliability. But it hopefully gives us a basic idea of what FSD Beta is capable of.

In terms of FSD, yes, it is hard to get to 99.999999% reliability since there are a ton of different edge cases that FSD has to be able to handle without driver intervention.
 
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Every disengagement is an automatic report.
You do not have to hit the report button in those instances.
Add to that, according to Mr Cook who has been kind enough to post his videos here and talk about the beta, the number of times he can hit the report button per drive (before the car connects back to Wi-Fi and uploads info back to Tesla) is limited to about a half dozen or so. After that, apparently the car starts to over-write previous reports.
 
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@Dave Mac Do you know if this intersection turn lanes changed recently? Heading South on Bladensburg turning right to New York Ave where navigation believes the 2 right lanes are available for turning right while the street signs indicate only the right-most lane can turn right. I believe the middle lane used to be right-turn-only at certain times to improve traffic flow getting on Highway 50, but now it seems like bus timing is more important, so buses can go straight from the right lane:

bladensburg new york.jpg


Notably, the OpenStreetMap data for this segment believes the left lane can go straight, middle lane can go straight and right, and right lane can turn right. And if Autopilot was in the middle lane, most likely it would have attempted to turn right potentially in front of a bus going straight.
Code:
turn:lanes     through|through;right|right
Way: ‪Bladensburg Road Northeast‬ (‪581526877‬) | OpenStreetMap