jeffro01
Active Member
The exception to that rule is when you need to take the tire off to take it some place to be repaired so I'd rather the car rest on jack stands than the jack while it's wheel is missing.
Jeff
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The exception to that rule is when you need to take the tire off to take it some place to be repaired so I'd rather the car rest on jack stands than the jack while it's wheel is missing.
Jeff
Last week I took my MS to a local mom n pop type of tire shop in Bellflower, ca, after reading a few posts about members getting their jack pads (or whatever that area is called with the 3 holes) eaten up, I literally got down on my hands and knees to show the guy at the tire shop exactly where to lift the car with a car jack, he knew exactly how to place the jack to "catch" the jack pad to jack up the car to remove the tire to check for a nail. I had already knew to place the car in "jack mode" even before he started, for $15 he patched my tire and in less than 15 minutes I was on my way.
FYI -- I ordered a set of the jackpoint jack stands back on 8/14/2017 but they were backordered. Haven't received any updates yet as of 9/27/2017. I'll post another update when I have some news.
SomeJoe7777
Marginally-Known Member
Rotations. Putting the car up on jack stands with all 4 wheels off the ground lets you rotate tires very easily because you can simultaneously take all 4 off, clean them, set air pressures, measure tread depths, clean hubs and wheel mounting surfaces, and then put all 4 back on with no intermediate jacking steps.
I do this all the time with my Jackpoint jack stands.
Just to follow up on an old post -- two related reasons in particular in this case. One, I don't have a spare. Two, hydraulic floor jacks almost always slowly descend if they are holding weight. Every one I've worked with in my life has done this. So here's what happens. You jack up the car. You remove the damaged tire with the wheel. You leave to take it to a tire shop to be replaced or fixed. This presents two problems. One, the car will likely be resting on the ground without a wheel by the time you get back. Two, I just don't consider it safe to leave a lifted car unattended without it being held by a jack stand.
A spare wheel and tire would suffice for dealing with blown tire issues, but if you don't already have a spare, might as well go for stands that can be used for multiple purposes.
Got an update from John over at Jackpoint Jackstands LLC. They are retooling to increase production, and are not entirely satisfied with the new tooling and are having to revise a little to reach their desired level of expectations out of their products. That's why they are so far behind on shipments. They seemed very willing to refund or put folks on an unpaid waiting list in the meantime. I was fairly satisfied with his polite and prompt response and will be staying in the order queue for now.
bnsfengineer
Active Member
I'm so Confused!!!?? So don't use my old floor jack? Use hockey puck? Buy speciality jack stands? Call Tesla? I should had thought about this before I bought this car
Akikiki
A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
I know. I know. I just gave up trying to keep up and figure it out. What do I do now? I wake my neighbor up and tell him that I have a flat and call someone to fix it. He doesn't have a clue its a Tesla and doesn't know anything about the considerations that need to be taken. But I figure as complex as this issue has become, his ignorance of all these things is going to get me the same result as if I took charge and got it done myself. I guess I am trusting my fate to the gods.
One of the cons of owning a Tesla. Given where the battery is, it is very important to jack it from the designated jack points. On any other car, it's not a big deal. I mean, sure, gas cars have designated jack points too, but it's unlikely you'll screw anything up if you just use some random point that looks strong. A lot less room for error on a Tesla.
jelloslug
Active Member
Jacks are for lifting a car so you can support it properly, end of story.
bnsfengineer
Active Member
Does anyone have a picture of the Jacking points ?? Is it really that complicated??
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Not using jack stands when jacking up a car is unwise to the point of demonstrating Darwinism in action.
See manual for a nice picture of the jack points highlighted in yellow.
Hockey pucks and wood blocks are nice, but those jack stands are schweet. I hope they resume timely delivery soon as I do want some. Anything I can do to keep my car away from service centers of any kind is effort well spent.
See manual for a nice picture of the jack points highlighted in yellow.
Hockey pucks and wood blocks are nice, but those jack stands are schweet. I hope they resume timely delivery soon as I do want some. Anything I can do to keep my car away from service centers of any kind is effort well spent.
bnsfengineer
Active Member
bnsfengineer
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jelloslug
Active Member
It's not that it's terribly complicated, it's that if you don't do it right, you can damage the edge of the battery casing. The pads themselves are very similar to what BMW uses on just about all of their cars.Does anyone have a picture of the Jacking points ?? Is it really that complicated??
Most BMWs have a rectangular socket at the four corners that is very different than what Tesla uses, see the attached picture.
Most BMWs also have a forward center jack point, which is just a boss on the subframe which might appear similar.
jelloslug
Active Member
So what you are saying is that BMW has a plastic rectangular block at the four jacking points? I have seen that configuration before somewhere else...Most BMWs have a rectangular socket at the four corners that is very different than what Tesla uses, see the attached picture.
Most BMWs also have a forward center jack point, which is just a boss on the subframe which might appear similar.
I wish they would have 8 points, 2 at each corner, so you could use just about any jack and stand.
People need to know local mechanics and tire shops. Not necessarily the big-name shops, or the shops with 10 techs, but the smaller shops run by "Joe" and his mechanic "Bob".
I used to have a racecar, and needed an alignment. Shop after shop replied with "it's not in the computer so we cannot do it.".
I got referred to a frame shop run by a guy called Jerry. I stopped by and there was nobody in the front office; I walked into the shop and there were 4 car stands (4 post things) with 3 racing trucks on 3 of them. I was in the right place.
Since then, whenever I need any tire / alignment stuff, I go and see Jerry. I "buy him lunch" every time I see him with a $20 handshake.
When my wife had a flat tire, he fixed it for free. The "Tire Store" told her she needed a new tire. Jerry fixed it, and told her that the other tire stioe didn't even take the tire off of the rim. Wife was "worried" that the tire wasn't safe - Jerry's WIFE told my wife that if he says it's safe then it's safe. The tire lasted 40K more miles.
I stop by and see Jerry every time I need something. (He calls me when he needs tech help on other stuff.)
He will rotate my tires. He will check my aligment. If the alignment is fine, he doesn't charge me.
I buy him lunch.
When I needed new tires, we had a discusson on tires, and what shape he likes and how they last. My "online" price was cheaper than his price. I bought the tires online, shipped them directly to him, and he mounted and installed everything. Charged me $20 per wheel.
Find a local mechanic. Talk to them and show an interest in them an their life. You will get good advice whenever you need it, and if they cannot help you with a proiblem, they will know who can.
I used to have a racecar, and needed an alignment. Shop after shop replied with "it's not in the computer so we cannot do it.".
I got referred to a frame shop run by a guy called Jerry. I stopped by and there was nobody in the front office; I walked into the shop and there were 4 car stands (4 post things) with 3 racing trucks on 3 of them. I was in the right place.
Since then, whenever I need any tire / alignment stuff, I go and see Jerry. I "buy him lunch" every time I see him with a $20 handshake.
When my wife had a flat tire, he fixed it for free. The "Tire Store" told her she needed a new tire. Jerry fixed it, and told her that the other tire stioe didn't even take the tire off of the rim. Wife was "worried" that the tire wasn't safe - Jerry's WIFE told my wife that if he says it's safe then it's safe. The tire lasted 40K more miles.
I stop by and see Jerry every time I need something. (He calls me when he needs tech help on other stuff.)
He will rotate my tires. He will check my aligment. If the alignment is fine, he doesn't charge me.
I buy him lunch.
When I needed new tires, we had a discusson on tires, and what shape he likes and how they last. My "online" price was cheaper than his price. I bought the tires online, shipped them directly to him, and he mounted and installed everything. Charged me $20 per wheel.
Find a local mechanic. Talk to them and show an interest in them an their life. You will get good advice whenever you need it, and if they cannot help you with a proiblem, they will know who can.
Super easy! The complication is that there is only one point at each corner.Does anyone have a picture of the Jacking points ?? Is it really that complicated??
With many other cars, you can lift them at the jack point and put a jack stand somewhere in the frame rail (or reverse).
No problem for a shop with a 4 point lift.
