There are now some launch videos of P90D with ludicrous over at teslarati.com http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-p90d-ludicrous-launch-reactions/
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There are now some launch videos of P90D with ludicrous over at teslarati.com http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-p90d-ludicrous-launch-reactions/
Would it conceivably be less costly to get a 90kWh pack that already has the upgraded fuses & contactors?
Also, is there anything else that needs to be upgraded outside of the battery pack (wires or fuses in the car)?
Would it conceivably be less costly to get a 90kWh pack that already has the upgraded fuses & contactors?
Also, is there anything else that needs to be upgraded outside of the battery pack (wires or fuses in the car)?
A small note I shared in another thread. When I picked up my car I mentioned it was kind of a bummer paying 10k+tax for L-mode when I could have paid less if I had just upgraded. The guy told me that he heard it may actually be pretty expensive to upgrade, that it was something like 4 techs and many hours of labor to do it all. Hopefully someone finds out what the final price is going to be soon. It's unfortunate that hasn't been made clear yet.
If it ends up being that expensive:
"This option will cost $10k for new buyers. In appreciation of our existing P85D owners, the pack electronics upgrade needed for Ludicrous Mode will be offered for the next six months at only $5k plus installation labor."
Then this statement which sort of implies that he bulk of the cost is $5K will be thrown out the window.
Well that's not particularly encouraging. Pete90D - I'm totally stoked for you, but having picked up my P85D like three weeks prior to you, I'm totally jealous. :smile: I was really hoping the upgrade process would be the solution to that, and perhaps it may still be. Whatevs - this is one of two primary reasons I opted to lease my Tesla. That way I can enjoy the new hotness every three years or so.
The guy may have been completely wrong and I hope he was for P85D owners wallets. If labor is $5k, and takes 4 techs, that's ~10hrs @ $120/hr, which seems like a lot of hours to retrofit this.
I have looked at it this way though. I paid $10k to have a change made while the car was being assembled, which is much easier to do, to a car that was intended to have this added from the start. Assembly may have even been done by robots. It wouldn't surprise me if the bulk of the cost was for the parts. A lot of times adding things on afterwards is more expensive, for example Turbine wheels being $5500 instead of $4500. So I think the $5k is probably a gift from Tesla as a discount from what I actually paid for parts. It doesn't necessarily mean that the $5k is more or less than the labor, it just means that's what you're paying for parts.
That's right - you and I were picking up at roughly the same time. One thing Tesla *was* able to confirm was that they will NOT roll the costs of the upgrade into the lease, despite the fact that the upgrade increases the residual value of the car at the lease's expiration. So, yeah - I agree with you. Every month that passes I'm less interested in the upgrade because I'm one month closer to leasing the next one. I'm #15 on the upgrade list but that's a frustratingly meaningless number at the moment.I did the exact same thing. This makes the math of the upgrade even more complex. I've only got the remaining months of the lease to amortize the cost. Every month that passes without the upgrade effectively makes it more costly. At some point I just toss in the towel and save the $6K-$7K toward the next down payment (or spend it on some other equally frivolous thing). If I can get the upgrade in the next six months or so at the current best guess price I'm surely game, after that it's a question.
I think there's no doubt that Teslas's cost is more doing it as a retrofit than when factory assembled. I think most people were reading Elon's statement that P85D owners were getting a break for any number of conspiracy reasons. One theory is that this is Tesla's way of partially compensating P85D owners for the horsepower issue without coming out and just giving it away for free which would look like a massive price hike for new P90D owners as they could have gotten it for less had they bought a P85D. Another theory is Tesla doesn't want to piss off P85D owners by having something come out so soon that obsoletes the car they bought.
The guy told me that he heard it may actually be pretty expensive to upgrade, that it was something like 4 techs and many hours of labor to do it all. Hopefully someone finds out what the final price is going to be soon. It's unfortunate that hasn't been made clear yet.
I have looked at it this way though. I paid $10k to have a change made while the car was being assembled, which is much easier to do, to a car that was intended to have this added from the start. Assembly may have even been done by robots. It wouldn't surprise me if the bulk of the cost was for the parts. A lot of times adding things on afterwards is more expensive, for example Turbine wheels being $5500 instead of $4500. So I think the $5k is probably a gift from Tesla as a discount from what I actually paid for parts. It doesn't necessarily mean that the $5k is more or less than the labor, it just means that's what you're paying for parts.