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The data is attached and the source linked below. If it's anything like the Nissan Leaf, there should be an improvement in cold temperatures. The full article probably has more detail, but the range increase was 13% at -10C (14F).Sorry, if "if and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry xmas"
I am sorry, "I think" and "maybe" just not my form of "Data Lets see real data
over a range of temps before we all become one of those people.
Does heat pump for Model 3 come in SR+? Thank you!
The latest I have heard is yes if the car is manufactured in Fremont, and no if it is manufactured in China.
Thank you! Along with EMEA headlights for 2021 correct?
So is the heat pump contributing to the increased range? I thought it would be more than the ~10%.
1. Winter heating efficiency only helps when it is cold ...So is the heat pump contributing to the increased range? I thought it would be more than the ~10%. I have a Fujitsu mini split heat pump for my finished basement and that thing is crazy efficient. 1.2kw when running and blowing 120F air at 10F outside temps
In real world condition that is not fully correct for the Tesla heat pump system. With the combination of the octovalve and heat pump there are warm weather advantages covered in an article on insideEvs Tesla Model Y Heat Pump Details Infrequently Discussed By The MediaIt does, but there is basically no impact in warmer weather driving so the range is sort of between. It might help more than 10% in the winter and 0% in the summer. The reported range is all based on the EPA test procedures, not real life situations.
EMEA headlights are only confirmed for cars going to Europe from Fremont. (Though probably for China made cars going to Europe as well.)
Yep, but your example in interestingly enough of little direct advantage to most car owners.there are warm weather advantages ...
Yep, but your example in interestingly enough of little direct advantage to most car owners.
Don't get me wrong -- I think the Octovalve is brilliant and I love energy conservation. I'm just pointing out that in the "real world" owners will appreciate the new heating system in the winter.
- An average Tesla owner uses Superchargers for ~ 1/10 of their miles. I think the pre-charge routine is about one kWh, so the average reduction in energy use is ~ 100 Wh per 300 miles or about 1/3 of a Wh per mile. We are talking rounding error here.
If I'm thinking about this correctly, long trippers will also not notice the heat_pump/Octavalve benefit as it relates to Supercharging: During the driving to the next Supercharger the range estimate will not include the Supercharger pre-heating benefit. It will reduce Supercharging time -- about 1 kWh worth. What is that nowadays, about 15 - 20 seconds ?I agree that the majority of owners that primarily use in home chargers will probably rarely see a measurable benefit (except summer long road trips) with this mode.
If I'm thinking about this correctly, long trippers will also not notice the heat_pump/Octavalve benefit as it relates to Supercharging: During the driving to the next Supercharger the range estimate will not include the Supercharger pre-heating benefit. It will reduce Supercharging time -- about 1 kWh worth. What is that nowadays, about 15 - 20 seconds ?
Tesla driving bank robbers are licking their chops.
Nitpicking aside,
I hope you realize that I am in your camp -- the system-wide heat integration is fantastic.
Your tendency to take personally the lack of appreciation for the superb engineering makes me think you are a U Waterloo grad.