which is great for a 320 miles EPA rated truck. My Model 3 AWD from '19 (310 miles EPA) doesn't do 270 miles going 70mph
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How many will look into the F-150 Lightning?
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jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Again, I'm not sure what these boutique range tests show. This test shows the MY going 290 miles @ 70 mph, for what it's worth:
Tesla Model Y 70 MPH Highway Range Test: How Far Did It Go?
We fully charge a 2020 Tesla Model Y electric crossover and take it out on the highway. We then drive at a constant 70 mph to see how far it will go.
insideevs.com
Whatever either standardized or targeted test is used, the real world range of a BEV is always going to be lower, unless someone wants to fib about their vehicle. I have never owned an ICE car that achieved the EPA mileage estimate, yet people are out there claiming that "their car" exceeds it. I doubt that BEVs are any different.
Depends more on how warm you run the heat and if the roads are snow covered. If you crank the heat range goes way down. Keep it set to the low 60’sF, it isn’t much of a hit. Sno me covered roads, especially fresh loose is also a huge hit in range. Cold by itself not much, if any.
I can get “rated range” in my model 3 on clear roads, sunny, and temps in the teens F.
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SmartElectric
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^ Since no one here is interested in a new gas F150, not sure why you posted about gas order banks open?
Airbus is over half a century behind Boeing, and competes well against them.
Just like Tesla is a century behind Ford but is worth more than 5 times Ford.
Thanks for proving my point!
jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Airbus was indeed "founded" by a collection of existing aerospace companies in 1970 (Wikipedia):
But that's like saying Lockheed-Martin was founded in 1995.
The Porsches beat their EV ratings & diesels nearly always better their EPA ratings.
But as a standard, I'd agree that matching the EPA ratings is unusual.
But as a standard, I'd agree that matching the EPA ratings is unusual.
Lots of Wikipedia warriors posting irrelevant data so I thought I would requote what started it all. Someone said that if Cybertruck was not first to market they wouldn't get many sales.
My point is that Tesla is virtually LAST to market by 100 years and they are selling like crazy. No need to get scared if Cybertruck is 1-3 years behind.
How were they 100 years last to market with the roadster, S, X, 3, or Y?
They will sell cyber trucks if it ever sees the light of day. I was saying that they would have sold a lot more if it had come 1-3+ years before any of the other options. By the time it gets here (if it does) it will be at least a year behind Rivian R1T and f150, and will likely be behind Silverado EV, R1S, and hummer. I have a holder on CT and Silverado (dropped Rivian), if I can get a 400+ mile Silverado or Rivian before the CT I’ll do it in a second.
I think there are many people out there like me. Have reservations on multiple EV trucks with only plans to buy one. Which ever one that gets here first within the specs we want.
I’ll also put it this way. Had the model 3 been available in 2014 when I bought my model s, no way I would have bought the S. If the EQ5, and i4 had been available in 2018 when I bought the model 3 it would have been a hard choice, had I not had a Tesla prior would have likely bought one of the others.
Dan Detweiler
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Tesla will sell every Cybertruck they can make, just like they sold every car they have ever made. Demand has never been, is not now, and will not be for the foreseeable future any sort of problem. Period.
Dan
Every manufacturer has sold every car they ever made..........
Demand to Tesla's will start slowing down, there are just better products out there now with more tech. There's a reason Musk is opening up the SC network to other manufacturers. He is smart and is able to see what is happening. Fart noises and plain interiors isn't going to cut it anymore.
That is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
If any of the major companies would have went all in with EVs 10 years ago tesla would have very likely not made it. Especially Toyota, I think they missed the boat the most given the experience and success they had early on with Prius. It was a huge risk on Elon’s part buying Tesla and taking over. The gamble he won was largely due to no one else stepping into the space until Tesla had stable footing.
Don’t forget that tesla is (still) an extremely small fraction of the car market. What like ~0.5-1% of domestic US car sales?
This line: “Every manufacturer has sold every car they ever made” is true.
But every manufacturer has NOT sold every car they CAN make. Plenty of manufacturers have cut production on their vehicles due to lackluster sales.
Elon is not opening up the network because he thinks he is losing sales to alternatives. It’s to speed up development of the supercharger network and to receive incentives on the table. He’d be a fool not to. Also don’t forget their mission statement.
Tesla is far from having a demand problem. As @coleAK has noted, Tesla is a small part of the market. The funny thing is though, Tesla will soon make more money than all auto manufacturers while shipping a fraction of the vehicles.
Tesla Now Makes More Money Than GM & Ford - CleanTechnica
Tesla is now making more money than General Motors and Ford. This was pointed out in a recent article by The Street
cleantechnica.com
Tesla doesn’t “need” to be the highest producer. Let other companies fill in the cheaper market segments.
THIS IS THE DISCUSSION!
You said that if Tesla released the Cybertruck a year or two after the competition it would not get buyers.
I commented that Tesla was 100 years late to the automobile industry and that they have been incredibly successful despite that.
dhrivnak
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Actually I think they have cracked 3% for far this year.
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