I'm not even sure his comments about European Union energy mix hold water. Well, maybe in Germany now that they've freaked out and turned off the nukes. Big coal must love it.
Must find a grid mix for the EU.
Must find a grid mix for the EU.
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They always do avoid that issue because it makes HFCVs look horrible as a solution for the future where most people predict using much more renewable energy. And they know under any other situation besides from electricity made from a huge majority of coal, EVs blow HFCVs out of the water (including using natural gas).As usual, siting this special case where HFCV can be cleaner than EV (i.e. H2 from natural gas, electricity from coal) and then talking about getting your H2 via renewables without admitting that EV beats HFCV here by a factor of 3.
What I don't get is why they insist on being so rosy on hydrogen and always trying to downplay EVs (almost all manufacturers are like this, except maybe Nissan and Ford), even though they claim they have equal focus on both.
No problem with that, but as vfx says it usually is using our tax money and so far it hasn't resulted in anything that we can buy. I'm okay with the limited research that Obama proposes though.It's okay if they don't give up. Investigating the viability of hydrogen is a good thing.
How can they sell "cheap" hydrogen with no fueling infrastructure?But what if the oil companies are planning to divert some of this effectively "free" hydrogen into the transport market to seed it? Boom - undercut the EV market with an effectively artificially priced loss leader and then when everyone is hooked, EVs and other refinery sales (petrol etc) go away and then it will not be a by-product any more but something that has to be specifically made and sold at its true price. Is this the big oil masterplan?
To be fair, the recent attempts are much better at packaging. Basically you just have more than one tank. That way you can fit the tanks under the car, the same way you can fit a battery. However, the required volume isn't going to improve in the future, unless they raise the pressure even higher (IMO unlikely), while batteries will continue to improve in volumetric density.Even assuming that the reasearch goes smoothly from now on, hydrogen will present a marketing problem; reduced luggage space compared with EVs. Either the pressurized tank takes up space under the hood or in the trunk.