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Picked up a refreshed model in June from the factory. The front plate was on all the cars being picked up. From other threads, it seems they will install it whether you want it or not. You can remove it yourself. It's a pain to do it, but it can be done. There's a few threads on that.Can someone verify if the refreshed model S, that they do install the license plate frame at pickup?
Wrong answer.Drill the holes and get over it.
@rxlawdude have you never exceeded the speed limit?
One of the reasons you don't get pulled over for not having a front plate is because it is not a primary infraction.
Look, there's a difference between stretching a speed limit ... versus ... ignoring the front plate display law.
Hey, I don't make the law, but the sense of entitlement of drivers of high-end cars that the law doesn't apply to them is rather obvious. Just check for front plate compliance in Newport Beach or Beverly Hills vs. San Diego, Riverside, Chico or Eureka. Do an analysis of scofflaws violating the plate law, and I'd bet money the inflection point of violations vs cost of the car is somewhere around $40K.Yes, I would say that the differences are:
Try explaining that to your kid...
- Lower fines for the infraction
- No effect on insurance rates
- Longer range for the EV
- Not increasing chance of accidents
- Not increasing damage from accidents
- Not endangering the life of your kid sitting next to you...
But I'm guessing you're affluent and not brown or black, and you've never experienced that extra sense of scrutiny by law enforcement. That leads to that entitlement I spoke of.
No need for it in DFW, at least, I've driven the past 3.5yrs in my S's without an issue. Sure, if they really need a reason to pull you over then they can use it, but so far, so good.
For the OP, 3M VHB is plenty strong enough to hold the plate, my last S had a couple or radar shifters fixed with it because I didn't want to drill, and no issues at all, regardless of whether it was 110f, or freezing cold with snow.
Obviously, you've never been pulled over Driving While White. I'd opine the many people of color who have been pulled over would disagree, except for the ones that then got shot.
Did I say I have no problem with speeding? I merely point out that a "permanent" violation like refusing to display a plate solely for vanity is different than occasionally, perhaps innocently or even for a purpose like not causing a hazard exceeding the posted limit. One shrieks entitlement, the other is utility related.I agree that people of color should not have to worry about being profiled and scrutinized by law enforcement; however, that same profiling happens if they even slightly exceed the speed limit... another thing that affluent white scofflaws (like us) take for granted, and that you seem to have no problem with.
All I am saying is that your moral code is inconsistent, and it's better for all concerned if we restrain from judging others based on our own moral certainties.
Obviously, you've never been pulled over Driving While White. I'd opine the many people of color who have been pulled over would disagree, except for the ones that then got shot.
Did I say I have no problem with speeding? I merely point out that a "permanent" violation like refusing to display a plate solely for vanity is different than occasionally, perhaps innocently or even for a purpose like not causing a hazard exceeding the posted limit. One shrieks entitlement, the other is utility related.
I always roll down the window and put both hands on the door in plain sight of the officer. You don't know what his last call was or what just came over the radio. That plus a few other things has kept me ticket free since the 70's.This is off the topic but from watching COPS for many years and talking with my friends in law enforcement, I can conclude that over 90% of violent arrests by police is due to the suspect not listening to the commands given by the officer. This is true for whites, blacks, brown yellow and red.
When the police officer tells you asks you to see your hands, or put your hands out of your pocket, or get on the ground, you obey his command. Its plain English, but no, they don't listen and get Tazed or worse get shot. Those in law enforcement have no idea who you are when he pulls you over. Thats why he has one hand on his gun.
Pete8314 thank you for the 3M tape suggestion
MSM thanks for the magnet links