I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

[fortunex]

The yoke looks great, oozes futurism. But that's it.

There is no functional advantage to driving and turning, it's all aesthetics. The marginal gain of making it easier to see instrument information isn't needed.

Function divorced from form, 1 step forward 2 steps backward. Maybe Tesla should have waited for steer by wire, but that's a lot of 2 weeks to wait for.

Don't get me started on capacitive 'buttons' .....

 

[msm859]

Your wish comes true for the yoke that is available from 2 vendors:

Hyenna for €950.00

Hanshow for $1,099 to 1,259

So how long before vendors come up with a replacement for the yoke? I want a round steering wheel and stalks for turn signals and shifting.

 

[msm859]

The yoke looks great, oozes futurism. But that's it.

There is no functional advantage to driving and turning, it's all aesthetics. The marginal gain of making it easier to see instrument information isn't needed.

Function divorced from form, 1 step forward 2 steps backward. Maybe Tesla should have waited for steer by wire, but that's a lot of 2 weeks to wait for.

Don't get me started on capacitive 'buttons' .....

Agreed. How many soccer mom's drive the X? How many of them are going to want a yoke, that is harder to steer, harder to use turn signals and harder to shift gears. Theres is a reason there is a saying - "no need to reinvent the wheel". THIS WAS PROBABLY THE DUMBEST AUTOMOTIVE DECISION SINCE THE EDSEL.

 

[Candleflame]

The yoke looks great, oozes futurism. But that's it.

There is no functional advantage to driving and turning, it's all aesthetics. The marginal gain of making it easier to see instrument information isn't needed.

Function divorced from form, 1 step forward 2 steps backward. Maybe Tesla should have waited for steer by wire, but that's a lot of 2 weeks to wait for.

Don't get me started on capacitive 'buttons' .....

its not all aesthetics. if you got a tiny low dash it gets obscured by a normal wheel. even the original Model S is borderline and would probably benefit from a slightly yoked wheel.

Another example of a car benefiting heavily from a yoke design would be porsches newer cars where it is not possible to see the outside 2 dials with a normal steering wheel.

 

[Msjulie]

Agreed. How many soccer mom's drive the X? How many of them are going to want a yoke, that is harder to steer, harder to use turn signals and harder to shift gears. Theres is a reason there is a saying - "no need to reinvent the wheel". THIS WAS PROBABLY THE DUMBEST AUTOMOTIVE DECISION SINCE THE EDSEL.

Soccer mom's aren't the only ones who can realize the yoke is a serious downgrade in safety and functionality. I'm not a fan of capacitive buttons but they are less egregious than the squared off 1/2 wheel. Also not a fan of drive direction controlled by still-quite fallible AI or less convenient screen slide up/down stuff. New tech can be cool but running out of ideas and just flinging things at the wall because they might look neat is a poor substitute to real advancements.

Ducking from yoke fans!

 

[TexasTezla]

its not all aesthetics. if you got a tiny low dash it gets obscured by a normal wheel. even the original Model S is borderline and would probably benefit from a slightly yoked wheel.

Another example of a car benefiting heavily from a yoke design would be porsches newer cars where it is not possible to see the outside 2 dials with a normal steering wheel.

Probably makes more sense to move the dials then...

 

[Darmie]

There are some aftermarket steering wheels that I've seen on the M3. What's the talk I hear from YT creators mentioning that the model 3 will be receiving the auto gear select? Is this going to be a thing? The only reason I can think of Tesla offering this is to receive more input from drivers of what works and what don't work?

 

[Wennfred]

Don’t care for the Yoke, looks weird trying to fully turn the car.

Fred

 

[DopeGhoti]

There are some aftermarket steering wheels that I've seen on the M3. What's the talk I hear from YT creators mentioning that the model 3 will be receiving the auto gear select? Is this going to be a thing? The only reason I can think of Tesla offering this is to receive more input from drivers of what works and what don't work?

It's so that they don't have to maintain two separate versions of the UI (one with the swipe-to-drive, and one without) at the same time. It's easier to maintain one UI version that works on all Teslas than to have to keep four (or more) (by my count we'd then have at least: yoke, wheel, yoke-with-FSDTest, wheel-with-FSDTest) separate versions up to date at the same time.

 

[texas_star_TM3]

what problem does the yoke solve in a car with no instrument cluster behind ? honest question. "looking badass" isn't problem solving but merely form over function.

 

[Candleflame]

Probably makes more sense to move the dials then...

tricky because the trend has been to move to smaller steering wheels which just feel better. so at this point you need to have a smaller dash - noone does that as people want lots of info on their dash etc. The yoke kinda solves that problem.

 

[Candleflame]

what problem does the yoke solve in a car with no instrument cluster behind ? honest question. "looking badass" isn't problem solving but merely form over function.

yoke feels slightly better when cruising as you can have a neutral vertical angle on your hands with a proper grip.

 

[TexasTezla]

tricky because the trend has been to move to smaller steering wheels which just feel better. so at this point you need to have a smaller dash - noone does that as people want lots of info on their dash etc. The yoke kinda solves that problem.

The 3 screen solves ALL that problem!

 

[Jclboston]

tricky because the trend has been to move to smaller steering wheels which just feel better. so at this point you need to have a smaller dash - noone does that as people want lots of info on their dash etc. The yoke kinda solves that problem.

Kind of solves that one problem, while creating more serious problems. It's quite telling that Porsche would knowingly decide to sacrifice visibility of their outer gauges for the benefit of retaining a properly sized (and very excellent) round steering wheel. A no-brainer given the choice, unless, as others have mentioned, the steering ratios were also reconfigured.

 

[Dolemite]

BUT U CAN GET USETA IT

 

[texas_star_TM3]

the "but you can get used to it!!!!" statement sums it up perfectly... it's literally a solution in search of a problem. Now if it were true steer-by-wire with adjusted ratios ... then a yoke could bring advantages. But that's a lot more complex than "in 2 weeks"

 

[Skione65]

If I had a nickel for every Tuber that inadvertently turned on the wipers while trying to turn/steer I’d be rich! Sums it up in a nutshell.

Ski

 

[fortunex]

The grip angle isn't that much different with yoke vs wheel at 9/3 o'clock, not enough to make that a design choice at the expense of ease of use. The stock wheel geometry is very comfortable.

 

[JETS BLY]

This is the YOKE on the after-sales market. By comparing, you can see who is the most advantageous design, hoping to help you.

 

[smartypnz]

I always thought that if they are going to install the yoke - why not put one on both sides (left and right)?
I mean, the advantages - no stopping to switch drivers, passing a large slow truck that's in the left lane, authorities not knowing which to give a ticket to, freaking out passers when the left side driver is sleeping....