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iPhone 14 + wireless charging pad
- Thread starter eglove
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Gonna mention it to my service centre still. I don't expect much but I'll update you!
blackT3$!@
2021 LR Model 3
I have the same phone and same case. I have a 9-2021 LR AWD 3 and the Tesla wireless charging pad works with the phone in the correct orientation.
All,
Seeing some guidance in this thread that doesn’t match my experience so thought I’d post mine. Got iPhone 14 (not pro not max) and found it wouldn’t charge in my MY’21. No case, Apple mag safe silicone, aftermarket silicone, upside down. Doesn’t matter, same outcome. Starts to charge and stops about 20 seconds later. Phone charges on ALL other wireless chargers I have including Belkin, Apple and Mophie. One of these requires the camera section to touch thereby forcing a gap between the phone and charge pad. Still charges fine. The only place it won’t work is the Tesla 2021 MY. Frustrated would be a massive understatement.
Seeing some guidance in this thread that doesn’t match my experience so thought I’d post mine. Got iPhone 14 (not pro not max) and found it wouldn’t charge in my MY’21. No case, Apple mag safe silicone, aftermarket silicone, upside down. Doesn’t matter, same outcome. Starts to charge and stops about 20 seconds later. Phone charges on ALL other wireless chargers I have including Belkin, Apple and Mophie. One of these requires the camera section to touch thereby forcing a gap between the phone and charge pad. Still charges fine. The only place it won’t work is the Tesla 2021 MY. Frustrated would be a massive understatement.
Negative Ghost rider. I picked up my car. My iPhone 13 Pro Max will “NOT”charge. Case or no case, doesn’t make a difference. Place it upside down, it does charge. The service techs all has various Android phones, they all charge. The SA had a iPhone 14 Pro (Not Max), it charges fine. They are all good friends, they said they would escalate it to engineering, I am not holding my breath. Hopefully, the 2024 models might get better.
I am guessing it’s an issue with the size. So size does matter after all.
Just purchased the iPhone 14 Pro and discovered the same issue. Ended up purchasing a case with MagSafe (Tech21 on Amazon) and it now works in my Model Y 2021.
CaptUAL
Member
2021 MSP. iPhone 14 Pro. Silicone MagSafe case. Charges just fine-on Left/Right Front and Rear wireless charging pads.
I believe the wireless charging pad in Teslas only runs at 5W. Is it possible that is too low to hold a wireless charging cycle in these newer phones? Most older wireless chargers run at least 7.5-10W with many newer ones above that. So the Tesla is putting out very little power. Outside of this I’m not sure I have charged any electronic device at 5W since maybe my iPhone 6s!
It's not exactly the wattage the issue, it's the coil placement. It seems to be too low on the pad to match for (what used to be) a more normal size for phones, so the alignment is not perfect, therefore causing more heat and inefficiency.
I doubt the 5W figure you are giving though, at least for the 2021+ console. I read elsewhere 10w, though I really doubt that figure (most 10W chargers in a car environment would need to have active cooling). My guess is a 7.5W coil that is just not lined properly with the iPhones.
Fun experiment: full throttle acceleration from 0 will "disconnect" the phone from the wireless charger, even if the phone itself doesn't lift "that much". I think we are on the very edge of what is "workable" for coil distance / alignment with the larger iphones, so unless the coil is adjustable in placement (which doesnt seem to be the case) or the unit is redesigned, I would doubt any changes.
I would blame apple. The camera on the 14 pro line us is huge! It’s extends out significantly compared to my 13, we have the 14 pro max and it’s a cannon sticking out.
Knightshade
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Naah, 14 Pro Max charges just fine on the taptes pad- so this is a Tesla problem (or whoever designed their OEM charge pad anyway)
I have this case on my 14 Pro Max and it works on the passenger side. I can sometimes get it to start charging on the drivers side if I push firmly on it for a few seconds. It will then start charging and I can let off the pressure. However on an hour road trip the phone gave an overheating warning so this is certainly not efficient charging. Thankfully the 14ProMax can go a couple days without a charge so I don't need to use the pad often.
ndallas1983
Member
Yehhhh Wife's iPhone 14 Pro Max is in a phone case that protects it from being run over by a car, and it won't charge.
I think she even tried taking it out of the case and it still wouldn't charge.
2021 Model 3
She said she's ok without the charger. My Pixel Pro 6 charges great though; now I'm wondering if I should not switch to iPhone
Tesla does say "do not put anything other than phones on the charging pad", but does anyone know (of course Tesla would say don't do this), if there's a material or anything that could be placed on the charging pad to boost the charge into the phone? I think the problem is the giant camera on the iPhone 14 Pro Max sticks out and keeps the phone from making a flat surface contact.
If anyone has experimented with a material on the charging pad that safely transfers the charge to the phone let me know what you used!
I think she even tried taking it out of the case and it still wouldn't charge.
2021 Model 3
She said she's ok without the charger. My Pixel Pro 6 charges great though; now I'm wondering if I should not switch to iPhone
Tesla does say "do not put anything other than phones on the charging pad", but does anyone know (of course Tesla would say don't do this), if there's a material or anything that could be placed on the charging pad to boost the charge into the phone? I think the problem is the giant camera on the iPhone 14 Pro Max sticks out and keeps the phone from making a flat surface contact.
If anyone has experimented with a material on the charging pad that safely transfers the charge to the phone let me know what you used!
Alright, I get what you are trying to do, the short answer is no. You cannot “enhance” a wireless charger performance by adding another interface in between, adding more “obstacles” and not fixing the alignment issue anyway.
I’d encourage everyone to look at this teardown of the charging pad. It really puts the “best practices” in action, including a dual coil (increasing contact area), though it is in the lower half of the pad. This is why alignment IS the most likely culprit, worsened by the distance from the camera.
In the case of the 14 Pro Max, and likely all the Magsafe iPhone Pro Max (12 and up), coil alignment IS the issue. If it was the distance, we’d have more reports of 14 Pro, 13 Pro and 12 Pro having the issue. The gap definitely doesn’t help but alignment is even more important. You’d have to either be able to move the coil itself (you can’t), or find a way to bring the coil closer (which would likely mean either making a hole in the Alcantara to “drop” the camera bump in height).
If someone was REALLY motivated, I guess they could try moving the coil further up in the unit, moving them manually, but you risk as much to have a broken coil than be successful. I guess it would bring up the question of how much a spare charger assembly would cost from Tesla.
EDIT: In regards to those saying that cases with magsafe help, the only reason it might is if they have thinner material within the wireless charging area. They do not induce better conductivity or anything of the sort, at least not in a mesurable way. Magsafe’s sole purpose to align properly allowing for the “optimal” placement / performance with Magsafe accessories, a non-magsafe coil setup would not have any measurable benefit.
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Meifigno Magic Mag Series Designed for iPhone 14 Pro Case, [Military Grade Protection & Compatible with MagSafe], Translucent Matte Back with Soft Edge Magnetic Case, for iPhone 14 Pro 6.1", Blue
This case from Amazon is working on my Model Y. No issues with wireless charging with case on.
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