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Is anyone else gonna wait to buy a used M3?
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I've been waiting since the MS came out for this car (not necessarily the M3, but an electric car that I actually want to drive and can afford). No way I'm waiting any longer.
Sounds like you aren't on the waiting list or high on it. My $7500 tax credit will cover that "drop the minute it leaves the parking lot." But I assume you are too late to get that nice bonus. Good luck to you with your strategy.
BluestarE3
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I've been waiting since the mid-90s for an affordable decent range electric car, my current hybrid car is 16 years old and I'm in my mid-60s, so, no, I'm not deferring getting my Model 3 and not buying used. Reserved 3/31/2016 at 10:45 AM.
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Big-T
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Yeah, I"m not convinced waiting is going to financially work out the same as a normal car: Let's say you buy a base 35k TM3 new.
1) Your actual price will be $27,500 (plus tax and minus any state rebates you may have.
2) After one year the average car depreciates 20% of so which is $28,000
3) I would say, because the Model 3 will likely still be constrained for well over a year after production starts the depreciation will be less, say 15%
4) At the end of year two, let's say Tesla is finally meeting demand, more or less, car still more advanced than most out there and is holding it's value a little better than average, has deprecated 25% now $26,250
5) Year 3, the time a lot of folks traditionally trade in a car because most manufacture warranties and leases expire. Tesla still under warranty holds a little better than average still, let's call depreciation at 35% $22,750
So really you'll have to wait until year 3 to buy a Tesla for less than you would drive it off the lot brand new. What advantage would you have on waiting until 2021 to buy the same car you can have in 2018?
1) Your actual price will be $27,500 (plus tax and minus any state rebates you may have.
2) After one year the average car depreciates 20% of so which is $28,000
3) I would say, because the Model 3 will likely still be constrained for well over a year after production starts the depreciation will be less, say 15%
4) At the end of year two, let's say Tesla is finally meeting demand, more or less, car still more advanced than most out there and is holding it's value a little better than average, has deprecated 25% now $26,250
5) Year 3, the time a lot of folks traditionally trade in a car because most manufacture warranties and leases expire. Tesla still under warranty holds a little better than average still, let's call depreciation at 35% $22,750
So really you'll have to wait until year 3 to buy a Tesla for less than you would drive it off the lot brand new. What advantage would you have on waiting until 2021 to buy the same car you can have in 2018?
NikeWings
Active Member
There have been debates on other threads that a used M3 may not lose much value initially due to the demand backlog, creating a very strong resale market during the first 9 months or so. Depending on how long "wait" means to you, it could be awhile if you have a set target price in mind, less any available incentives which may sunset during your wait.
Sasmania
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Even if I had put down a deposit, I would not qualify for the tax credit. What waiting would do is lower my car insurance because being 25 somehow qualifies me to not pay more.
Aside from some assumptions you've made, it wouldn't have been financially responsible to put down a deposit when it was announced.
NikeWings
Active Member
Got it!. Sounds like you've got a well thought out plan and sometimes you've got to just run with it, and not over analyze things. Stick with your instincts.
strykeroz
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There's no arguing against your premise that a new car depreciates more than a 2nd hand one. It's just there's no way to get a car as good as an M3 next year without doing just that. Like others in this thread have already said, if you've been hanging out for a decent BEV at a price you can afford that's the price you'll be paying.
Shame you live so far away as I'll hopefully have a nicely pre-depreciated right-hand-drive first generation M3 available when you're ready...
Shame you live so far away as I'll hopefully have a nicely pre-depreciated right-hand-drive first generation M3 available when you're ready...
Yea I didnt preorder the first day. Which I wish I did for that tax credit. I later intended to buy a CPO M3. Hope that preowned models reflect the standard depreciation and the tax credit in its pricing.
I did just buy a preowned MS though since I really couldn't wait any longer to get a tesla. Preowneds should be available by end of year I would say as people may realize they don't want it. But those will also go like hotcakes
I did just buy a preowned MS though since I really couldn't wait any longer to get a tesla. Preowneds should be available by end of year I would say as people may realize they don't want it. But those will also go like hotcakes
Because you are now in the Tesla club you might have priority, you might be able to jump in line for the M3 and get an earlier build slot.
You will get some tax credit. You can then sell your S and you wouldn't lose much since the majority of the depreciation has already happened.
I think whether you have another car or not during this period is also part of the equation.
If no car, and you can wait out 2.5 to 3.5 years, I think you'll start to see Model 3's in the mid-high $20Ks by then (I agree with other posters that there will be shortage of M3's quite a long time, so it's very likely to retain value considerably better than usual. This will start to be offset as the years go by given Tesla's faster than average rate of improving their vehicles, i.e., more than with most models, some 2018 M3 buyers will see improvements by Tesla to the M3 2-3 years later that make them want to sell their '18 and get the latest and greatest).
If you do have a car, you might want to factor in the savings on gas, and the fact that your current car will depreciate some, understandably not as much, as well. While the older the car, the less impact depreciation will have, you may want to consider the older the car, the more likely that you will have to pay for repairs. What's more, the tax credit phases out over roughly a year or so. There's a reasonable chance you would qualify for part of the phased out amount (probably either when it gets to 1/2 or 1/4 of the $7.5K original amount).
All that said, even though I'm a shareholder, lols, I think you are onto something, in that life can be lived without this, that, or even the Model 3 (apparently humans have been living without the M3 for ages).
strykeroz
Member
The suggestion was sound. I don't understand your need to lash out. That's how I stretched to my first car - it was in my father's name to get cheaper insurance but I was designated driver and paid the bills.
david_42
Member
Wait? No, but our reservation number is so high that I'm hoping there are people who purchase a RWD and when the AWD version comes out buy one and put their RWD on the market. Has to be blue.
JeffK
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy a RWD model just to sell it in one to four months later when AWD is out, unless it's an employee model. That's a large amount of impatient tax.
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