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Lease Cap Cost Reduction Question in event of Car being totalled

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by MXinCT, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. MXinCT

    MXinCT Member

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    I'm one of the lucky few who got one of those awesome P90DL Classic Fascia (2k miles) deals a few weeks ago. Car is due for delivery next Wednesday (It came from Texas). I'd like to understand my exposure in the unlikely event the car gets totaled in a accident. Scenario one saves about $600 over the course of the lease vs Scenario 2. (Here are the relevant pieces of the deal:

    MSRP: 138,700
    Discounted Price 110,600
    2yr Lease
    CT Sales tax = 7.75%

    Scenario 1
    DownPayment - $17,700
    Total Due @ Sign = 20,272
    Cost to Own over 24mo $29010
    Lease Payment $361

    Scenario 2
    DownPayment - $5,000
    Total Due @ Sign = 7181
    Cost to Own over 24mo $29601
    Lease Payment $956

    I know that everyone is going to say why on earth would you give up $13,000 to save $600 and I agree for the most part but I'm more interested in the consequences of having done so. The APR on the money factor is 4.32% which inst a horrible return on money you wouldn't be investing otherwise.

    Here is my question - The car as it stands today is worth more than the discounted price (see them being sold on other sites for 120k fully loaded). Lets just say the car gets totaled 6 months from now. Its very likely the car is still worth more than is "owed" on the vehicle and the insurance payment would be made without the need for GAP being invoked. Tesla Finance is going to get a check for obviously more than they deserve because of my cap cost reduction payment up front. Do I get any of this back in the scenario where they are paid more than the sum of all payments + residual payments?

    Normally GAP insurance is most valuable in the first 12-18 months of a lease where the customer is certainly "Upside" down in vehicle value due to the immediate depreciation incurred from driving "off the lot" as they say. In my case I am driving off the lot 28k into the depreciation and was wondering if this really is a concern for me. Can anyone point me in the right direction on this one?

    Thanks!
     
  2. patrick40363

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    Take door #2.
     
  3. goofygrin

    goofygrin Member

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    You do not get anything back. You want to put the least down on a lease and hedge your bet that a total won't happen (or get gap insurance).
     
  4. number12

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    Why on earth would you give up $13,000 to save $600?
     
  5. MXinCT

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    Tax implication since the car will be for work would be the only reason. And like I said in the first post - I agree normally I wouldn't even consider it but the accountant asked me to look into it so I did. Being able to write off more of the lease in the 1st year this way even though I was under the impression that as far as tax deductions go you have to split up the total 2yr costs into equal payments minus the small amount disallowed for luxury car leases. Door #2 is my gut reaction - But I was hoping to have others say why and the answer lies squarly in the 2nd response. You get nothing back if its totaled. Why on earth would you put down a penny more than you have to unless the MF/APR was out of sight.

    Can't wait to join the Tesla Family next week!
     
  6. FlatSix911

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    Never put big money down on a lease :cool:
     

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