I wonder if an 85 pack has to be replaced under warranty for any reason if they'd allow you to upgrade to the 90 pack at that point for the new car difference? Also, I wonder if the 85 will be phased on in the future so that replacements have to be the 90? I doubt that in 5 years you'll be able to get a replacement 85 and that it will be a 90. I also wonder that if they can't replace it with an 85 and you don't want to upgrade to the 90 if they will throw it in because there's no 85 replacement or if they'll have a software solution to lock you out of 5 kWh?
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I wonder if an 85 pack has to be replaced under warranty for any reason if they'd allow you to upgrade to the 90 pack at that point for the new car difference? Also, I wonder if the 85 will be phased on in the future so that replacements have to be the 90? I doubt that in 5 years you'll be able to get a replacement 85 and that it will be a 90. I also wonder that if they can't replace it with an 85 and you don't want to upgrade to the 90 if they will throw it in because there's no 85 replacement or if they'll have a software solution to lock you out of 5 kWh?
Andyw2100
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My guess on this would be they would not.
From what I have read here, when batteries have to be replaced under warranty, they are replaced with batteries with similar amounts of degradation. They are not replaced, at least from what I understand, with brand new batteries. That being the case, I doubt they would allow you to just pay the difference and get a brand new 90. On the other hand, I guess they could let you pay the difference to get an equivalently degraded 90, assuming they exist at that point.
Personally I'd bet on a software lockout.
ModelS1079
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Now, I gotta say, that, while we may jab, elbow, nibble at, tease, roil, occasionally hammer, largely disagree and frequently goose, tar, feather, and generally pester each other on this forum, we do not attack and we are never attacked.
We just push each other to be even more complete enthusiasts of The World's Greatest Car.
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Father Bill
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Well I just got the upgrade yesterday when the car was in for some brake service. So far I have had a significant improvement in 3 areas. 1: Slacker takes about 2 seconds to move to the next track as opposed to 5-10 seconds with the 3G. 2: Coverage, I get full bars all over the Saint Louis, MO area. In only a few places are there fewer than full bars. With 3G I rarely got full bars normally showing 2-3 bars in the same area. I will be driving to an area where any coverage is really spotty this weekend and will report here what the upgrade does for that location. 3: App Connection. I have the car in power save mode, always connected. Thus it would normally take 10 to 15 seconds for any info to appear on the app. Now it takes less than five seconds. These are my anecdotal observations ymmv. I am very pleased that I got this retrofit.
Peace,
Father Bill
Peace,
Father Bill
Hadn't thought of that, Padre! That is a nice perk to the upgrade. Even in good 3G territory the app takes longer than I'd like to load.
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
Anyone care to test a Nav voice search, or Slacker voice request, for your friendly neighborhood fiddler guy?
techiesjc
Member
Got my LTE upgrade at the Fremont SC today. All good and you can really see the difference on map updates and Slacker or Tune-In. All very nice! Same pricing that others have stated.
MarcG
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I wouldn't expect LTE to improve the wake-up time, as turning off Always Connected shuts down the cell radio altogether.
The MCU never sleeps. It is always on for logging. That's why the center screen immediately comes on while it takes the IC a few seconds to wake up. 3G, Bluetooth, and Wifi are clearly disabled while asleep, but I've never seen evidence of the MCU OS in sleep state.
I just figured that the LTE radio might be faster to wake up than the older radio.
I just figured that the LTE radio might be faster to wake up than the older radio.
Cyclone
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I see this often too. But, at the moment, my car also sits for days at a time untouched and that may contribute greatly to how often I see this.
Have you compared XM before and after? I'm really curious to know whether other other people are perceiving sound quality improvement, presumably from the wiring harness and/or other connectors that were changes with LTE installation.
Wow. Very interesting. Never seen this on my Sig MCU even after sitting days. Only the IC starts with the Tesla logo on mine. Perhaps this is why vampire drain is lower on the newer builds?
This is not true. The MCU has 2 separate and distinct systems in it's housing; the CID (Center Display) and the Gateway. The Gateway is the what performs the logging function, and it runs FreeRTOS on a Freescale MPC5668G. The Debian-based CID can go to sleep or even totally shut down while the Gateway can stay awake.
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