MASTER THREAD: 2021 Model 3 - Charge data, battery discussion etc

[TimothyHW3]

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Thank you. Could you please more screenshots from expected remaining and to charge complete? Thank you

 

[Npap]

Nice! Can you please tell us about the entry point? Are you on the right side of the car, on the right wheel turned left?

 

[Marius A]

Nice! Can you please tell us about the entry point? Are you on the right side of the car, on the right wheel turned left?

Yes, I put a description in the video

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Thanks! I should have done this a long time ago...so much better than a verbal description of the process.

 

[FredMt]

Some additional information to take a picture of the label of your battery pack. The entry point is on the right side of the car with the wheels turned fully to the left, like on the picture. To properly illuminate and facilitate the focusing of the camera, I also used a head light, placed on the protective undercover.
I have a 2020 LR.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Some additional information to take a picture of the label of your battery pack. The entry point is on the right side of the car with the wheels turned fully to the left, like on the picture. To properly illuminate and facilitate the focusing of the camera, I also used a head light, placed on the protective undercover.
I have a 2020 LR.

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Thanks! That’s exactly the method I proposed. I should have put together this type of “how-to” a while ago. Hopefully we’ll get a bit more of that battery label info now!

 

[EvanLin]

due to the buffer not being included in displayed rated miles, but it being included in the EPA miles.

I remembered seeing the theory somewhere, but there are disputes.

Do you have an solid evidence except EPA test report, such as SMT? Just for double-check.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

I remembered seeing the theory somewhere, but there are disputes.

Do you have an solid evidence except EPA test report, such as SMT? Just for double-check.

Yes there are clearly documented YouTube videos showing driving deep into the buffet.

 

[EvanLin]

my measure at supercharger with my E5D

May I know is your VIN 5YJ (Made in US) or LRW (Made in China)?

Any E5D owner is welcome to report.

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Yes there are clearly documented YouTube videos showing driving deep into the buffet.

*buffer!

 

[Marius A]

OK, so my car says 492km when charged to 100%
3.6kW charging, checked immediately after it was finished

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

OK, so my car says 492km when charged to 100%
3.6kW charging, checked immediately after it was finished

So, with the caveat that the battery could still be a bit chilly and throw things off slightly (no idea), you seem a bit on the low side for initial capacity at around 79.6kWh (this is just approximate).

Wouldn’t worry about it too much - you are within 1kWh. But long term you might expect to be perhaps 4-5km below others as a consequence. All depends on how your battery ages. Some do better than others, for no apparent reason (seems to have little to do with how they are used).

I still expect a constant adjustment for the Performance at some point, and maybe a bit more capacity to be released, but we’ll see what happens. It’s hard to say.

 

[Marius A]

So, with the caveat that the battery could still be a bit chilly and throw things off slightly (no idea), you seem a bit on the low side for initial capacity at around 79.6kWh (this is just approximate).

Wouldn’t worry about it too much - you are within 1kWh. But long term you might expect to be perhaps 4-5km below others as a consequence. All depends on how your battery ages. Some do better than others, for no apparent reason (seems to have little to do with how they are used).

I still expect a constant adjustment for the Performance at some point, and maybe a bit more capacity to be released, but we’ll see what happens. It’s hard to say.

I'm not worried. Compared to my previous 2020 TM3P I can already see improvements due to the heat pump. A drive which would usually eat up 170km of range now only reduces by 145km, and that's with brand new winter tires.
I estimate a max range of 450km for the performance in real world scenarios, anything more is a bonus

 

[FredMt]

1104423-00-P style BB is mine so that's a regular LR.

Found an other M3 LR AWD E3D recently delivered in France, same reference as you :
Style BB réf : 1104423-00-P, range displayed in car at 100% : about 543Km (no SMT). Could you please remember me how many range at 100% for you ?

 

[FredMt]

Just a supposition: Is the "-P" at the end of E3D battery pack reference could be signature of new Panasonic cells ?
Old one of LR 2019/2020 (77,8 kWh) has "-M"

 

[Korgmatose]

Found an other M3 LR AWD E3D recently delivered in France, same reference as you :
Style BB réf : 1104423-00-P, range displayed in car at 100% : about 543Km (no SMT). Could you please remember me how many range at 100% for you ?

IIRC, 546 max at 100%, on 2020.48.12.1 with the adjusted range

 

[Npap]

Found an other M3 LR AWD E3D recently delivered in France, same reference as you :
Style BB réf : 1104423-00-P, range displayed in car at 100% : about 543Km (no SMT). Could you please remember me how many range at 100% for you ?

Especially after the recent update, shouldn't he get 565km (EPA) ?

 

[AlanSubie4Life]

Just a supposition: Is the "-P" at the end of E3D battery pack reference could be signature of new Panasonic cells ?

No, this is just the revision code. It’s been incrementing for a while. Minor revisions to the part, will likely not be associated with the cell vendor (but we will see).

Especially after the recent update, shouldn't he get 565km (EPA) ?

He has an E3D (IIRC) but for unknown reasons some of these are limited to 75kWh. This is covered earlier in this thread, in any case.

 

[Korgmatose]

This should be a sticky, or a google docs, so we don't have to blout our post count by re-iterating the same pieces of information every third post-page or so

 

[TomaGo]

Hello @FredMt and all,

Do you think we can start to add the battery label "AA, AB, ..." in my visual table or do we still need more sample to confirm a theory ?