Glan gluaisne
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That's my understanding too. I believe the manual is a bit of a hodge-podge of new and old information. Really needs a bit of tidying up, I think.
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Model 3 Key Fob
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That's my understanding too. I believe the manual is a bit of a hodge-podge of new and old information. Really needs a bit of tidying up, I think.
Have a look at the description text in phone cable page in the UK shop. It’s a joke.
dctek
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I have one, it’s the newer style passive entry, the original one was never available for M3 in the UK.
Thunderbird1
Thunderbird1
I have one that’s out for delivery today. Just need my model 3.
dctek
Member
The model S and X don't use a Bluetooth key*
*(yet) Elon Musk says the Model S and Model X will soon get a long-awaited feature that the Model 3 already has
*(yet) Elon Musk says the Model S and Model X will soon get a long-awaited feature that the Model 3 already has
I think the M3 key fob uses Bluetooth connection weren’t the S/X use same proximity tech as other cars. (Sorry I don’t know the exact tech)
In theory the M3 key fob is more secure and less likely to suffer from relay attacks.
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
Just paired a fob to the M3 and can confirm that it does seem to use BT. The pairing process seems pretty much identical to that for a 'phone.
Have you checked out what the range is for the key fob. How close does the fob need to be to the car for someone to unlock doors using the handles? Also does the key fob support walk away lock? If so, how quickly does it lock?
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
Just done a rough and ready check. The fob supports keyless entry, without pressing any buttons, just like a 'phone. It doesn't seem to support walk away lock, AFAICS (might be finger trouble my end, still getting used to settings). The car just locked using the fob button (press the roof) from the very rear of our house, so around 30ft from the car, going through two walls.
I love my M3 but I have to say that this Tesla opening & closing business is, in my opinion, another example of solving a problem that didn't exist (as with the auto wipers with camera and "clever" software instead of a tried and trusted rain sensor like most other cars). I've never had a problem with a standard key fob on any car ... totally reliable and it only opens the car when you press a button, which you do as you walk towards the car so the car lights up and is ready to enter (unlike the Tesla as I fumble in the dark). Press to lock on a fob.. then you know it's going to lock ... instead of checking your Tesla app later just in case it didn't automatically lock behind you! I really don't need an auto proximity function. What was the problem? My own phone is flaky unless the app is activated first, which is not instant... my wife's phone works 90% of the time but not 100%. The card is OK but placing it against a wet car and then putting it wet onto the centre console is less than ideal. I used the Fiesta today and (despite the comparatively agricultural driving experience) the entry exit process was perfectly fine, and I got 2 fobs with the car, of course, at no extra charge!
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
I had to buy a replacement fob for the i3. Cost, without the emergency key, was about double the cost of the Tesla fob.
good info. Any idea how close the key needs to be to the car for passive entry to work? Passive entry with my phone works from nearly 6m away, which I’m not a fan of. One of the main reason I’d want the key fob is if it would restrict passive entry so that it only works when the key fob is literally next to the car.
Glan gluaisne
Active Member
Hard to be sure, but it seems to be around a couple of metres or so at the most, probably less. I park about 2m from our front door, and with me locking that door my wife couldn't get into the car until I turned around. Hard to be sure, but I know that the car doesn't detect the fob when it's sat inside the house about 3m away, as I left it on a table in the house, went out to the car to get something and it wouldn't open.
Well that was my understanding for the Phone Key feature but that works from over 5m away with my iPhone 11. And if @Jeremy Harris example is correct, last time I checked 2m is way more than 3 feet.
If you have the fob in your pocket and click the button on the charge adapter it should open the port and allow charging.
Sometimes you need to touch the driver side rear door handle to ‘wake’ the car up first.
The same for unlocking, you might need to ‘wake’ the car up before it will unlock the adapter from the port. Sometimes you might need to open and close the door to really wake the car up. But in either case it is hands free.
