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You have a C VIN?If you're still keeping tabs on rear DU part #s, picked up a 10/19 build P3D- (stealth) last week -- has 980 (1120980-00-G) as expected.
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You have a C VIN?If you're still keeping tabs on rear DU part #s, picked up a 10/19 build P3D- (stealth) last week -- has 980 (1120980-00-G) as expected.
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Yep. Drive unit VIN character is showing C. What exactly does that mean?You have a C VIN?
As far as we can tell starting with 2020 model year a person (and insurance company) can now tell if you have a Performance 3 just by the VIN. We also speculate that all C VINs come with the 980 motor and that regular AWD will come with 990's (and B VIN).Yep. Drive unit VIN character is showing C. What exactly does that mean?
Thanks for the info, good to know; although probably not so good for me for insurance purposes.As far as we can tell starting with 2020 model year a person (and insurance company) can now tell if you have a Performance 3 just by the VIN. We also speculate that all C VINs come with the 980 motor and that regular AWD will come with 990's (and B VIN).
Another interesting point if it hasn't been brought up already. Fueleconomy.gov data is showing that the 2020 Performance Model 3 with 18" wheels actually gets more range than the Long Range AWD version (I'm assuming predominate configuration is 18" wheels). Tesla artificially lowered the range of the Performance version to match the non-performance car.
Non-P Long Range AWD Range
City: 331.1 Highway: 310.6 Combined: 322
Performance Long Range AWD (18")
City: 332.2 Highway: 319.2 Combined: 322 (Combined range voluntarily lowered from 332 miles)
Source: 2020 Datafile - Download Fuel Economy Data
Potentially could be from lowered ride height (reduced aero load), different tire (not sure if they're the same in the 18" config), different rear motor, and/or power electronics. Its tough to pinpoint without the road load coefficients. EPA does not have the 2020 Tesla certification docs available yet from I can find.
Another interesting point if it hasn't been brought up already. Fueleconomy.gov data is showing that the 2020 Performance Model 3 with 18" wheels actually gets more range than the Long Range AWD version (I'm assuming predominate configuration is 18" wheels). Tesla artificially lowered the range of the Performance version to match the non-performance car.
Non-P Long Range AWD Range
City: 331.1 Highway: 310.6 Combined: 322
Performance Long Range AWD (18")
City: 332.2 Highway: 319.2 Combined: 322 (Combined range voluntarily lowered from 332 miles)
Source: 2020 Datafile - Download Fuel Economy Data
Potentially could be from lowered ride height (reduced aero load), different tire (not sure if they're the same in the 18" config), different rear motor, and/or power electronics. Its tough to pinpoint without the road load coefficients. EPA does not have the 2020 Tesla certification docs available yet from I can find.
Thanks for the info, good to know; although probably not so good for me for insurance purposes.
I had the left rear wheel off today for some cleaning, and was surprised to see I have a 990 (Rev A) rear motor on my Dec 2018 non-P AWD. According to the DA when I took delivery, my car's birthday was 12/31/2018, so practically a Jan 2019.
Thanks for the link. I noticed the difference in efficiency (which was actually visible in the up-front listing) a few weeks ago. Then they were made the same (the range was always the same 322). I've been stupidly waiting for the certification docs; didn't realize this datafile existed.
I didn't think they could sandbag the MPGe numbers though. I thought they could only voluntarily reduce the range? (For example, the 2018 LR RWD (voluntary derating) had the same range as the 2018 LR AWD but the efficiency numbers still showed the RWD to be better. I have no idea.
It appears that Tesla somehow got EPA to use the non-P AWD MPGe and consumption numbers for their FuelEconomy.gov label data.
My 8th digit in VIN is a B and I have a stealth performance M3.
What is the build month for your car? I think this only changed for 2020 (some of which sold toward the end of 2019), based on reading above.
September 2019
Correct, the car was sold to me as a 2019 Model 3 Stealth Performance. Good to know about the motor, thanks for the response!Yeah, presumably it's a 2019 then, and has a 980 motor (like every other Performance Model 3 we are aware of). That would all be consistent.
Another interesting point if it hasn't been brought up already. Fueleconomy.gov data is showing that the 2020 Performance Model 3 with 18" wheels actually gets more range than the Long Range AWD version (I'm assuming predominate configuration is 18" wheels). Tesla artificially lowered the range of the Performance version to match the non-performance car.
Non-P Long Range AWD Range
City: 331.1 Highway: 310.6 Combined: 322
Performance Long Range AWD (18")
City: 332.2 Highway: 319.2 Combined: 322 (Combined range voluntarily lowered from 332 miles)
Source: 2020 Datafile - Download Fuel Economy Data
Potentially could be from lowered ride height (reduced aero load), different tire (not sure if they're the same in the 18" config), different rear motor, and/or power electronics. Its tough to pinpoint without the road load coefficients. EPA does not have the 2020 Tesla certification docs available yet from I can find.