Garlan Garner
Banned
I can't wait until a year from now. This place is going to be blowing up with expectation and excitement.
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Ciaopec
Active Member
Me too. True for all customers. But that is irrelevant to Tesla telling customers what number they were in the 400,000+ order line that did so much for Tesla's future and current prospects by breaking all product pre-sales records.
No one cares about delivery dates at this point.
Customer's gave something to Tesla, $400M in cash, huge positive PR, greater investment prospects, security to go ahead with aggressive expansion plans and Tesla should return the customer's trust in Tesla and at least tell people where they were in helping Tesla. Instead Tesla treats customers as the enemy, "bad eggs" who will "make trouble" and "don't understand the delivery parameters".
garsh
Re Member
EaglesPDX, you're getting all worked up over some sort of number that is going to have no bearing on when you get your car. Although we believe it to be representative of the order in which people placed orders nationally, there are enough outliers in the data that we're pretty sure it is not trustworthy as such.
Just remember where you were in line at your particular store. You did count, right? I know we all did. Or remember what time you finished placing your order. And please drop this silly crusade.
Just remember where you were in line at your particular store. You did count, right? I know we all did. Or remember what time you finished placing your order. And please drop this silly crusade.
There are a lot of details there that I don't recall seeing anywhere else, can you provide links to them? I know employees have priority, but I dont recall it being said that it would be regardless of when they ordered. If that were the case then no employees would have pre-ordered, they'd all jsut wait until the day before production started and place their order.
I don't recall seeing anything about there being a cut off between pre and post reveal. The only thing I've seen mentioned about time of reservation is that peopel will be asked to configure based on the date they placed their reservation.
TM has mentioned "regions" but I don't think there has been any definition of what they mean by region, it could be N, S, E, and W, or it could be by time zone, it could be by population density, or maybe order density. It'll start out west, that's all I'm aware of as having been said.
If you know more than we do you need to provide sources, if not, qualify your posts that this is just your opinion.
It would stress me to no end to know my exact {U.S.} delivery order, and then at 20 {number picked from thin air} vehicles before mine was supposed to ship, they shipped two car carrier shiploads across the Atlantic and another couple across the Pacific in order to "game" the Federal Tax Credit. I'm far happier NOT knowing exactly when to expect it, so I won't be sitting on the edge of my chair all the time.
Patience is not my strongest suite, but me trying to follow with extreme accuracy would drive my wife crazy.
Patience is not my strongest suite, but me trying to follow with extreme accuracy would drive my wife crazy.
Zaphod
Galaxy President (former)
You have far too much faith in people to believe that. Clearly you were not around when the X orders where first being made and people who reserved early on but wanted the small battery found out their orders would be lower priority after the P and larger battery models.
Only a handful of people know the order. Tesla was secretly publishing it on the confirmation of order email. When people discovered it, Tesla removed it from the page.
Tesla's reasons were based on poor customer relations, that people smart and committed enough to put $1K down on a Tesla 3 were "bad eggs" who would "make trouble" over the difference between order number and delivery order.
Tesla has not given any reasons. The reasons you are listing is just ordinary people here that is guessing on what that reason may be, and they guess what they guess based on earlier experiences with peoples reaction on the deliveries of Model S where the customer did have a "sequence number" and they found out that the deliveries did not follow this numbers exactly.
This time they have been clear about it from before anyone could reserve how the delivery sequence will be, and that any "sequence number" would not have anything to do with when you gets your car.
Dan Detweiler
Active Member
...and to think I just wasted a lick of my mouse to come over here and see the same stuff.
Stupid me.
Dan
Stupid me.
Dan
garsh
Re Member
Actually the order number will have a great deal of bearing on when you get your T3. All things being equal, a West coaster with optioned out car, No. 40,000 in line will get her car before No. 197,323.
Right now, Tesla cannot provide any delivery information. What Tesla can do now out of respect for customers commitment to Tesla, is to provide customers with their order number. There is every reason to do it and the only reason not to do is Tesla has no respect for its customers.
Striker3000s
Member
Post after post this is what he complains about. Let it go!! You think Tesla is so bad for hiding your meaningless number, cancel your order and go buy a Civic.
ccutrer
Active Member
There isn't even a global (and I mean that in the computer science sense, not the earthy sense) queue for your order to be in. Just a timestamp, and probably a location. Given that reservations opened at approximately 10am local time zone, what does it even mean that the first person in line in California technically reserved about 45 minutes after me - the 50th in line in Salt Lake City? Technically I reserved earlier than them in absolute time, but they were "first" at their location, and they're closer to the factory. They also had multiple backend systems accepting reservations, giving out reservation numbers that are either random, or from completely different chunks of a greater address space. Tesla isn't "hiding" anything from their customers, either maliciously or benignly. There simply is no sequence number to give. And it doesn't even matter. When it comes time to configure, they'll run a query such as "all SpaceX employees with California delivery addresses, you can configure". "All current Tesla owners that reserved before the reveal event started (a single point in global time)". Then they'll have a few thousand actual orders on the books after each of these hypothetical groups, and they'll do something like "give me 1000 orders that had blue paint and an all glass roof. That's what we're building this week." Production batching can be done based on a gazillion different variables - each option, delivery area, total customer cost, price to build, maximize actual profit, who knows. Just go look at the Model X delivery threads for the past few months. VINs are assigned some point after you order and confirm, but then production batching happens, so things get way out of order even at that point. For a while it was that you had to have chosen premium package. Then if you had chosen certain wheels or seat material, they were running low, so you got delayed. Or maybe there was a problem with your vehicle that they had to fix, so it got delayed.
All this to say... Chill out! There is no order. Now or when deliveries start. And tesla isn't thinking their customers are dumb, or will squabble, or whatever. They simply don't know the order.
garsh
Re Member
I'm glad you didn't get your reservation id. I can imagine your howling when the individual with reservation ID 390274 gets her Model 3 before your reservation ID 387411.
If you keep up this complaining, you could find your reservation to be cancelled.
You're not going to get any delivery information until you configure. End of story. Even at that time, you'll get an estimated delivery timeframe. Providing "order numbers" to reservation holders is pointless and would only fuel complaining from people like you when someone with a lower number gets their car before you. This provides no real value to customers or the company.
Don't forget, you can log into your My Tesla account and cancel your reservation at any time.
alseTrick
Active Member
It's interesting that it has spawned the most talk among T3 reservation holders including a widely read thread here from a TS owner who canceled his T3 order over the fact he got a number for the TS but didn't on the T3. I guess Tesla was channeling its inner Aretha Franklin where RESPECT equals MONEY.
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