mp32024
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i’m leasing. did you end up deciding what you wanted to settle for?Nice, got my same delivery delayed because I didnt choose between lease or buy but pickup is now thurs for the same set up.
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i’m leasing. did you end up deciding what you wanted to settle for?Nice, got my same delivery delayed because I didnt choose between lease or buy but pickup is now thurs for the same set up.
Rock chips won’t bug me as much as spending $5k for it. Rather put that money into coilovers or something.I got it on my 2020 just so I didn t have to look at rock chips all over my bumper in a few years. View attachment 1051214
I have driven the LR 3x in the last 2 weeks and the seats are very good. I have not driven the M3P but I have sat in the seats and those seats are very supportive (more bolsters) BUT not as soft as the LR seats. I may change my mind once I get to drive the M3P.
Hopefully this is not true, first person to say the suspension is more comfortable on the LR and so are the seats….
The defect that got my attention isn't getting fixed with a buffer. We're talking sanding, painting & finishing. Everyone has a threshold for what is acceptable. I'm certainly not a hater, I own the car, and the stock. I believe in the mission, but as long as the customers accept bad QC, it's not going to improve. The paint on my 22 M3LR is better than what I saw today, and it's not great. Watch the Hans & Franz video closely, right when they're talking about the rear spoiler, you can see the orange peel on the trunk lid very briefly. This is a 55k or more car. You would think that the star of your promotional video would get some extra love. My 2017 Fiesta had better paint. My god awful 2005 Jeep Liberty that's been sitting outside for 19 years has better paint. I mean the parts that aren't rusting. I would really like see the paint quality that comes out of Berlin. I have to believe it's better. Different market with consumers that have been exposed to better quality. YMMV.I can agree with most of your concerns, especially the painting over debris, that doesn't sound good at all, while i would be interested in seeing a pic of that out of curiosity.
Where i don't agree is your issue with orange peel. I get it, you don't want to have to spend the money after you buy a new car for paint correction. Most new cars have some degree of orange peel with their clear coat. If we're talking a Bentley, or Ferrari or any high end auto manufacturer, no, they will buff the clear coat before it leaves the factory so that there won't be ANY orange peel. Every car I've ever bought new had some degree of orange peel. I'm 100% ok with it. Why? Cause unfortunately i couldn't afford a Ferrari, and i know it can be easily corrected by having the car buffed out.
I'm not a car detailer but I've had several cars (bought new and bought used) paint corrected. Some of them needed intense correction because of swirl marks, some just light correction to remove orange peel.
Everything about how a suspension feels is subjective. One persons "sporty" is another persons "it sucks, I feel every bump in the road!"
Hopefully this is not true, first person to say the suspension is more comfortable on the LR and so are the seats….
I noticed that seat ergonomics are very good in the new LR; it’s a place that you could easily sit in for a long time. They are way better than the last generation seats. I also sat in the new M3P in the show room for a couple of minutes and you could immediately tell how thick and squishy the performance seats where, yet they were supportive at the same time. One thing I didn’t really like about the new seats is how much they hug you from the sides and for some reason I kept sliding off forward . Could be the type of clothing I was wearing at the time.I have driven the LR 3x in the last 2 weeks and the seats are very good. I have not driven the M3P but I have sat in the seats and those seats are very supportive (more bolsters) BUT not as soft as the LR seats. I may change my mind once I get to drive the M3P.
Regardless, I am still looking forward for mine to arrive.
First person? Hah! Lots of people say that about the LR. Don't get the P if you don't want a P
Hopefully this is not true, first person to say the suspension is more comfortable on the LR and so are the seats….
I hear ya. For what it's worth I've owned 3 BMW's over my life (1996 328i, 2010 M3, 2017 M240i) and ALL of them had some degree of orange peel.Everyone has a threshold for what is acceptable. I'm certainly not a hater, I own the car, and the stock. I believe in the mission, but as long as the customers accept bad QC, it's not going to improve. The paint on my 22 M3LR is better than what I saw today, and it's not great. Watch the Hans & Franz video closely, right when they're talking about the rear spoiler, you can see the orange peel on the trunk lid very briefly. This is a 55k or more car. You would think that the star of your promotional video would get some extra love. My 2017 Fiesta had better paint. My god awful 2005 Jeep Liberty that's been sitting outside for 19 years has better paint. I mean the parts that aren't rusting. I would really like see the paint quality that comes out of Berlin. I have to believe it's better. Different market with consumers that have been exposed to better quality. YMMV.
I’ve driven over small-medium potholes, medium sized speed bumps and steep inclines + speed bumps lol. No scraping the front floor so far! 5inches of clearance is just enough if you drive slow over them. My new video shows me going over bumpsQuick question, with those low profile tires , how does the ride feel? Do you feel confident going over speed bumps/ uneven road? Small potholes? These would be the lowest profile tires I ever have. I had 20, 21 wheels before, but they are at least 40 profile. Never had 30 before.
I wonder if you can put 18 on thereI have driven the LR 3x in the last 2 weeks and the seats are very good. I have not driven the M3P but I have sat in the seats and those seats are very supportive (more bolsters) BUT not as soft as the LR seats. I may change my mind once I get to drive the M3P.
with $7500 off, you would be crazy not to get the M3P. I bet running 19s would make it ride like the LR
I usually lease my cars but will be paying all cash for this one, with the tax credit just makes a bit more sense for me this time, I do have my hesitations about buying but also excited I'll be able to mod it morei’m leasing. did you end up deciding what you wanted to settle for?
LOL - My mom's Lincoln Towncar absolutely rides better and is more comfortable than a M3P. No contest.
Hopefully this is not true, first person to say the suspension is more comfortable on the LR and so are the seats….
My 1972 Black 4 door Town Car with the 460 V8 rode really nice. MPG not so nice. You could sleep comfortably in the back seat. I think the car was something like 21 ft long.LOL - My mom's Lincoln Towncar absolutely rides better and is more comfortable than a M3P. No contest.
Did more performance tests! Cannot wait to bring it to a track+drag strip. Yall are gonna love the car. Stay strong, deliveries gonna happen before you know it.
Thanks for sharing! Sub 11 would be . Fastest on dragy leaderboard currently is 11.03. I’ll see what my car can do on the strip Hopefully soon.3.04 0-60 on a gravely LA road is really impressive. He didn’t show the number with rollout subtracted, but it was probably 2.85 ish, so this car is beating Tesla’s speed claims. I am really looking forward to the first person to post times from a drag strip or similarly prepped surface. Would love to see 2.9 0-60 and 10.9 1/4 mile times. It feels like it’s there, I’d just want to see it haha.
You rightI believe a link to this video was already posted in the thread.