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Model 3's traction in snow

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Ken7, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. Ken7

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    I've got a deposit on the Model 3 and having just gone through a blizzard here in NY, I'm wondering if anyone can comment or conjecture on the 3's ability to navigate snow. I've been driving only FWD cars for many years now, and it's been quite some time since I've driven RWD in the snow.
     
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    Ken - I would expect it to be very similar to how the Model S handles snow (tons of comment/videos of it in snow you can check for).
    Remember also with an ICE FWD car, part of what makes that work in snow is the drive wheels are directly under the weight of the engine, vs an ICE RWD the weight is still over the front wheels, but being pushed from the back wheels. Most report the RWD tesla does much better than an ICE RWD because of the weight distribution, and the dual motors better than an ICE FWD, but search out some videos to see it in action
     
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    Get winter tires.
     
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    PJFW8 waiting impatiently for Model 3

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    #4 PJFW8, Feb 11, 2017
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    Winter tires make a big difference. People forget that they also extend the life of the summer or all season tires. The net cost is modest. The changeover is a minor hastle. Breaking performance is dramatically improved, as well. Check Tire Rack for prices.
     
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    I hope Model 3 has air suspension option. In Model S, lifting it to highest can help significantly in snow from what I read.
     
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    @Beckler - on the reveal night, one of the drivers was Doug Field Sr VP of Engineering, who said smart air suspension is expected to be an option, and the alpha car they were driving had air suspension.
     
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  7. Ken7

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    Melindav, thanks, your explanation makes sense. I'll also check the postings for the S to see additional thoughts.
     
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    Just so know, FWD also means Falcon Wing Doors around here.
     
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    If affordable the dual motor version gives you AWD.
     
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    Regardless of front or all-wheel-drive, it's my understanding that it's far easier to modulate throttle on EVs than ICEs through electronics. But I would agree with what the others have said. If you live in an area that frequently gets heavy snow, I'd look at getting the AWD option.
     
  11. S'toon

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    and winter tires.
     
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  12. Ken7

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    Good info guys, thanks.
     
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    We're in Quebec Canada just north of you, 1 hour north of Montreal, in Ski country. We get our fair share of snow. Winter tires are mandatory by law up here.

    We're also waiting for the M3.
    We've owned a lot of different cars, Rav 4 4wd, K car FWD, VW golf FWD, Mazda Tribute 2wd FWD, etc

    Our latest 2 cars are the 2012 Mitsubishi i Miev that we traded for up for a 2014 i Miev
    with a total of more than 100,000 miles (160,000 km) to date between the 2 of them.
    This is our 5th winter without problems.

    The Miev is pretty small & has rear wheel drive with a 16 kw battery.
    The weight of the battery is the advantage with the traction in the snow.

    I expect the M3 battery should be 3 times the size/weight.
     
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    Norway Tesla owners provide the best example of how these cars handle snow;

     
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    Dual Motor and Snow Tires, it should be a beast.
     
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    Except for regenerative braking. You should turn that to low when there's ice because high regen and ice make for a bad combination.
     
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    I might need to do more testing on ice, but I have yet to turn down my regent on snow and ice. The car handles very well in all conditions. I do have winter tires, but have yet to experience any issues. I should note that most travel for me never gets the car warm enough to completely eliminate the yellow dashed line that limits regen but again I have had no issues and in fact I prefer the way in which regen helps me slow down on snow covered slippery roads. No ABS needed, I feel it is better than ABS.
     
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    I bought before AWD was out so that might account for the difference.
     
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    I was amazed at how well my S performed in the snow here last month. With just the tires that came on it the car stayed planted when the 4WD trucks were sliding all over the road. I expect the Model 3 will be close to, if not as good.

    BTW with a FWD car, the weight of the engine over the drive wheels helps, but there are different dynamics at play when the drive wheels were in front. When I had to take Dynamics in college we had to analyze the difference in forces between a FWD and RWD car when trying to get the front wheels over a curb. The whole analysis was completely different for a RWD car and the conclusion was it was far easier for the FWD car to jump the curb.

    We didn't do an analysis of the dynamics on snow and ice, but I think FWD has some advantages there too.
     
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    182RG Free The Service Manuals From Tyranny

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    Winter tires + RWD > All season tires + AWD
     

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