Model X Falcon Doors

[JRP3]

I concur. I'm picturing the first time I bust open the Falcon doors at the grocery store parking lot. Folks are going to notice and, I think, be really impressed.

Just make sure no one is standing too close to the doors :biggrin:

 

[dsm363]

I showed the Model X website to a friend who drives a Toyota Tundra and he thought they looked really cool. I don't think he'd consider an EV at this point but even some traditional truck people like the looks of the falcon doors.

 

[NigelM]

I showed the Model X website to my 8-year-old daughter....

a) She wants me to buy one: "That's really coooool!"
b) She asked again: "How long till we get the Model S?"

The next generation doesn't want ICE's....

 

[Lyon]

Just make sure no one is standing too close to the doors :biggrin:

I suppose the same could be true when opening any door. :wink: I had a '71 Pontiac LeMans in high school that had HUGE doors, one could do serious damage with them!

 

[zachster]

This makes me wonder about the falcon door mechanisms...besides slowly opening and closing electrically, I wonder if one could manually raise or lower them (effectively speeding up either the open or close action) while having the electric action immediately take over where the manual interference stopped, finishing the action in process. This would effectively give us the best of both options...being able to quickly manually influence the opening/closing of the door, while being able to rely on the electronic actuation to finish the motion off.

Edit: though the biggest problem with this that comes to mind is how the electronics would differentiate between a manual intervention of the door motion designed to speed up an action, vs a purposeful or unintended obstruction of the door opening/closing, which should result in door stoppage

 

[Mycroft]

Just like elect. adjustable seats, if you want motor driven doors, you're not going to get manual speed.

 

[AnOutsider]

This makes me wonder about the falcon door mechanisms...besides slowly opening and closing electrically, I wonder if one could manually raise or lower them (effectively speeding up either the open or close action) while having the electric action immediately take over where the manual interference stopped, finishing the action in process. This would effectively give us the best of both options...being able to quickly manually influence the opening/closing of the door, while being able to rely on the electronic actuation to finish the motion off.

Edit: though the biggest problem with this that comes to mind is how the electronics would differentiate between a manual intervention of the door motion designed to speed up an action, vs a purposeful or unintended obstruction of the door opening/closing, which should result in door stoppage

My Q5 has an electric rear hatch... it absolutely does NOT like you pushing or pulling on it, regardless of current state.

 

[doug]

This makes me wonder about the falcon door mechanisms...besides slowly opening and closing electrically, I wonder if one could manually raise or lower them (effectively speeding up either the open or close action) while having the electric action immediately take over where the manual interference stopped, finishing the action in process. This would effectively give us the best of both options...being able to quickly manually influence the opening/closing of the door, while being able to rely on the electronic actuation to finish the motion off.

Edit: though the biggest problem with this that comes to mind is how the electronics would differentiate between a manual intervention of the door motion designed to speed up an action, vs a purposeful or unintended obstruction of the door opening/closing, which should result in door stoppage

Ehh.. you can design pretty much anything. For example they could put a clutch on the drive motor and use an encoder to determine the current position. I'm sure they'll work out the trade-offs of cost versus complexity versus reliability.

 

[Waverider]

My Q5 has an electric rear hatch... it absolutely does NOT like you pushing or pulling on it, regardless of current state.

Same with my Highlander. Make a horrible beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep noise if you touch it in auto mode. You can however manually close it just fine.

 

[AnOutsider]

Is it me, or did Tesla update the Model X page with a new, seemingly less-photoshopped pic?

 

[WhiteKnight]

Is it me, or did Tesla update the Model X page with a new, seemingly less-photoshopped pic?

Definitely looks like a different color - good catch!

 

[WhiteKnight]

By the way, I am hoping and believing that the Falcon Doors will be a lot faster opening and closing once they get all the kinks worked out. I know earlier in the day with the journalists they could not even get the doors to close all the way on their own. So wouldn't you think once they have got them perfected they could also make them quicker?

 

[JRP3]

On the other hand they have to be slow enough to get a limb out of the way.

 

[AnOutsider]

Definitely looks like a different color - good catch!

And it looks closer to the ground (no more floating), and the shadow seems to also have a reflection on the floor. Still looks a tad 'shopped though

By the way, I am hoping and believing that the Falcon Doors will be a lot faster opening and closing once they get all the kinks worked out. I know earlier in the day with the journalists they could not even get the doors to close all the way on their own. So wouldn't you think once they have got them perfected they could also make them quicker?

Yup. They close about as quick as the hatch on my Q5

 

[NigelM]

Is it me, or did Tesla update the Model X page with a new, seemingly less-photoshopped pic?

More photoshopped, not less:

I didn't alter the aspect ratio but the Model X looks thinner and taller now! Note also that Elon apparently had some landscaping done on the right of his garage doorway....:wink:

 

[AnOutsider]

haha, landscaping over tile -- good catch Nigel. So it looks like they cleaned it up a bit and used the Titanium Model X instead (I prefer it personally).

 

[NigelM]

Note that the shape of the car changed.....it's not the aspect, the garage doorway remains identical.

 

[doug]

More photoshopped, not less:

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I didn't alter the aspect ratio but the Model X looks thinner and taller now! Note also that Elon apparently had some landscaping done on the right of his garage doorway....:wink:

At least it looks like less of a hack job.

 

[gg_got_a_tesla]

It appears that the Model X | Tesla Motors page was built using images (photoshopped in part) of the brown roller that we saw offstage at the event.

After our jokes about the floating X in Elon's garage (yes, let's take credit for this!), they've replaced it with a pic of the real prototype (more greenish gray in color) photoshopped (with landscaping and all) into the garage.

You can see the differences between the brown roller and the gray prototype - the wheels in particular for sure.

I hope they'd update all the images on the website with the real proto's pics. The brown roller wasn't as pretty and the pics on the website don't do justice to the X as unveiled...

 

[Norbert]

To me, they look rendered.