U-haul problem fixed!Buying a trailer to haul may be a compromise way to solve one issue but now you also have created a new one. Stowing the trailer. One problem solved by compromise, another one created.
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U-haul problem fixed!Buying a trailer to haul may be a compromise way to solve one issue but now you also have created a new one. Stowing the trailer. One problem solved by compromise, another one created.
U-haul problem fixed!
Gets a little expensive when 2/4 weekends you use it. Compromise.
To mods: I will stop posting about this in ST thread. Please feel to move any/all that you feel necessary to another thread.
Happy to continue the discussion elsewhere but I am out of here on this subject. Peace
Go with whatever suits you, Al. If an ICE SUV with folding second row seats is your preference, then stick with it. Meanwhile, the Model X has a long backlog of orders. Soccer moms were apparently the top priority, and I'm sure Tesla's research taught them what's most important to that demographic. Once much of the backlog has been drawn down, I'd expect that folding second row seats will be offered as an option. The people running Tesla aren't fools. And for those whose real joy is constantly hauling around large items, I expect a Tesla pickup truck will eventually be produced.
Agree. If the reveal shows that the trunk only has 65" of space, the seats don't do anything special like rotate and there are no plans for any other seats anytime soon, we will start to see cancellations. And then the forum will decend into madness.
Even though the car is a technological marvel, its a manufacturing nightmare, and the increased
cost dictates a higher selling price. This is a self inflicted wound, until proven otherwise, and the price action reflects
that in my view.
What increased cost? The 5k extra base price to get falcon wing doors for easier ingress/egress, HEPA air filtering system, safest SUV/CUV on the road, the lowest drag coefficient of any SUV/CUV, towing capacity, etc., etc...
What increased cost? The 5k extra base price to get falcon wing doors for easier ingress/egress, HEPA air filtering system, safest SUV/CUV on the road, the lowest drag coefficient of any SUV/CUV, towing capacity, etc., etc...
Even though the car is a technological marvel, its a manufacturing nightmare, and the increased
cost dictates a higher selling price. This is a self inflicted wound, until proven otherwise, and the price action reflects
that in my view.
Using a regular windshield, and doors and seats etc. and more common parts with model S would have been just as good
and way easier to manufacture.
The Models S already scores 103 out of 100, why try to exceed perfection at a huge cost
of time and manufacturing . Until this perception is proven otherwise, I am afraid .
This may be just me , maybe I am being irrational , and the market thinks otherwise.
Even though the car is a technological marvel, its a manufacturing nightmare, and the increased
cost dictates a higher selling price. This is a self inflicted wound, until proven otherwise, and the price action reflects
that in my view.
What increased cost? The 5k extra base price to get falcon wing doors for easier ingress/egress, HEPA air filtering system, safest SUV/CUV on the road, the lowest drag coefficient of any SUV/CUV, towing capacity, etc., etc...
No, I think Drax7 meant increased cost of production.
I remember from the last shareholder conference call that some of the components, including the 2nd row seats, were proving difficult to build. I also remember that the windshield was difficult to source as well.
Elon said that Model X was one of the most difficult vehicles in the world to build. That implies increased cost of production.
Okay, let's address that then.
Difficult to build doesn't imply increased cost to produce. That's what you *think*. Your thought might be right in the end, it might not. But what difficult does mean is that more skill, knowledge and talent is required to do. Tesla already has those in its workforce. Tesla has also shown a great ability to improve efficiencies and cost measures.
The Model X ceased to be required for the Secret Master Plan goal about two years ago. Indeed, have you not seen the evidence of that? Has the Model S not paid for and paved the way to this very moment in time and allowed for timely capital raises, Gigafactory, SuperCharger Network, expansion of stores/galleries/SC around the world, stationary storage AND R&D for Model X and bringing it to market etc...?
Tesla's got this. Now is not the time to lack faith and conviction.
Just priced out a Cayenne Turbo S base is 150k, options including trailer hitch and autopilot type features, among others adds about 20k... I'm not an analyst for short or long term investments, just sayin' 170k > 130k, and cayenne has only 5 seats...
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