I have settled on getting my Model X (744) on the very same day I got my Model S (Nov 26).
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I have settled on getting my Model X (744) on the very same day I got my Model S (Nov 26).
Whoa there. They didn't just make an inquiry, they put money down. Tesla's ever-shifting sands are not exactly something to be happy about they just want some information..
Clprenz
Member
FALSE We are starting to confuse the length with and without mirrors. It is about 3 inches wider
note the seat switches are different 
The rear seats are fixed (back rest to butt rest angle) but then can still move forward/back up/down and tilt
also note the picture cuts off the front seat floor mount
which means the 2nd row seats tuck in under and spoon the front seats for sure
The rear seats are fixed (back rest to butt rest angle) but then can still move forward/back up/down and tilt
also note the picture cuts off the front seat floor mount
which means the 2nd row seats tuck in under and spoon the front seats for sure
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Jeva
BKINTME
Wow, you guys have more faith than I do to commit to a $100k+ car without even know most of the specifics about it. Maybe that means within the next week they'll reveal all.
Tesla got all the Model S Signatures out before the end of the year. I'd expect a little better with the Model X as long as suppliers don't screw them over.
I'm pretty sure there's enough space. If Tesla doesn't make something, the aftermarket probably will. The Falcon door opens a nice big space for it - though you can't drop the floor for a ramp, of course.
Agreed. I made a $5000 deposit on a Model X that Tesla has held for more than two years. Tesla set the time frames, failed to comply with the standards that they set, and failed to respect loyal customers who have hung in there with them through unnecessary uncertainty. I know of no reason why Tesla can't communicate better, even if only to say "we don't know yet." This is just a matter of common courtesy, not really about quality customer service. Tesla's customer service has been on a par with BMW's. (This is not intended as a compliment.) Lexus has treated me much better than either of them.
Tesla may not yet have a clear picture of how fast X production can be ramped up so can't say when #950 will be produced.
It can certainly be a lot more complicated than you can imagine, not being a Tesla employee and likely having no experience with automobile production and supply chains. Or do you?
A simple e-mail to [email protected], asking for a refund of your $5,000, will be serviced in a reasonably short period of time and then you can be more certain (and presumably happy) about your decision.
Tesla *HAS* been saying "we don't know yet". They have announced that they will ship the first customer cars before the end of September and ramp up from there. You knew you were placing a deposit for a car that wasn't shipping yet, and they made it clear in many different vectors (including the 10Q's) about the risks involved.
EDIT: That said, if you dig in some of the old S threads, you'll find the same thing. It's so close people can taste it, and they're willing to e-mail the CFO, CIO, CTO, CEO, and any other CxO they can find at Tesla *demanding* their car *RIGHT NOW*. Just hold on, enjoy the ride, and you'll have your world class vehicle sometime soon.
And for what it's worth, my experience has been far better with Tesla than any other manufacturer, bar none, including Lexus which has been a complete crapshoot at the snobby dealer *and* manufacturer level.
O-G
Member
stephenpace
VIN S00219
Very complicated. It is all about ramp, and slight changes in tempo make a huge difference for when people will get their cars, not to mention supplier issues as the ramp accelerates. If they tell everyone "you'll get your car on X date" and they miss it because the ramp happened two weeks later than planned, or slower than planned, the same people complaining about not knowing will complain that Tesla didn't hit the date provided. Tesla can't win either way, so the best course of action is to just say "we don't know" because that is the absolute truth. Anyone giving you a date now would be outright lying unless you have one of the Founders cars.
The week Tesla made my Model S, they were making 50 cars per week. My car was supposed to be in the 900s, but I ordered 19" tires, and Sigs came with 21s, so when Tesla experienced the 'great wheel shortage of 2012', they looked around the factory, saw they had 4 19s sitting around, and pulled mine up to 219. This happened to some 26 other people, which means some people got their car later than planned. It happens. It sounds like this will happen to some of the Model X owners that order the cold weather package. We all understand it isn't ideal, but my view always was, I waited more than 2 years for the car, what's a few more months among friends? I certainly wouldn't be calling up the CFO to complain--what do you want him to say? HE DOESN'T KNOW, and he certainly can't personally call up all thousand Sig reservations or 20k+ reservation holders to keep them up to date. He can't email them either because his email immediately becomes front page news. My two cents, anyway.
dirkhh
Middle-aged Member
They are limited in what they should say as a publicly traded company. I think no one here is happy with the sequence of delays, but I repeat... TODAY you complain about this? Of all days (not directed at you, of course, FlasherZ, but at the people complaining).
Yes. What a difference. Mercedes. BMW. None of them come close to the service experience of Tesla.
And none of them have the challenges with communication because frankly, no one cares as much about their next cars as we do about the next Tesla feature.
MrBoylan
Member
I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. The width of the Model X given was "with mirrors extended." The Tesla Model S is 86.2" with the mirrors extended, the Model X is 89.4" with mirrors extended. So it's a 3.2" difference between Model S and Model X with mirrors extended. If the mirrors of the X are similar to those of the S, then the Model X should be about 80.4" with the mirrors folded in. But don't quote me on this since we don't have confirmation yet. Yes, it's a wide car but the spec you gave for the Hummer H1 (86.5") doesn't include the mirrors at all. The Hummer H1 with mirrors extended is closer to 100 inches wide (more than that on certain model years).
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