Thanks! Hoping they start production early.. Moms 50th bday is October 2013.. big surprise for her
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bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
Do you have a contact person at Tesla? If so, send them a quick email and they can straighten it out. If not, send me a pm and I'll give you a contact over there.
October 2013 is pretty optimistic. Hope you're right! But I'm #3 and I'd be thrilled if I just got it in 2013.
October 2013 is pretty optimistic. Hope you're right! But I'm #3 and I'd be thrilled if I just got it in 2013.
gg_got_a_tesla
Model S: VIN 65513, Model 3: VIN 1913
I still can't believe that you could convince yourself to give up your Model S res for the X, Bonnie!
I know your resident stock tip specialists - of the canine variety - would appreciate the room in the X more but, this wait for the S has become practically unbearable for me! And, my S is 'only' 4 months away. A year and a half more for your X? Wow! Can I get the number of your Yoga or TM (Transcendental Meditation, that is) instructor?!
The Roadster helps. I would be flipping out with the waiting now after over 3 years if I didn't have the Roadster to drive every day for the last 18 months. Still very excited. I bet the wait for the Model X will be tough though.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
I still can't believe that you could convince yourself to give up your Model S res for the X, Bonnie!
I know your resident stock tip specialists - of the canine variety - would appreciate the room in the X more but, this wait for the S has become practically unbearable for me! And, my S is 'only' 4 months away. A year and a half more for your X? Wow! Can I get the number of your Yoga or TM (Transcendental Meditation, that is) instructor?!
Yep, the Roadster helps. I love that car. I am fine waiting for the X - by the time it's delivered, much will have been learned about the S, features and apps added that will find their way to the X. A supercharger network will be in place. Adapters will be available. I'm slowly remodeling my garage (just at the 'clean out the junk stage' ... new wiring, insulation, drywall, flooring, cabinets yet to come).
I'd be happy with just the Roadster and nothing else, except for the lack of space. So my Prius sits at the ready, for its once weekly drive when one of my dogs spends the day in the office (he's undergoing certification as a therapy dog).
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
I have EU P 533 for the Model S, and EU P 5 for Model X. My heart tells me "buy both" but my brain says "for now, one EV and one ICE". Also my heart says get the S (performance, with 21", tech pack etc.) but again my brain says wait for the Model X since I have two kids, live in a northern country, maybe better batter tech, and also I'm thinking that once the X comes any important fixes/revisions will have been made (same platform as the S).
So I guess it comes down to:
- Is there a possibility of EU production Model X delivery within 2013? (might consider upgrade to Sig if tis would help a lot)
- Will there be a bigger battery than the 85 kW available once the X debuts?
- How will the RWD Model S handle on ice/snow (we have 4-5 months of that)? Will be very interesting to hear from people in the US and Canada who might test it now i fall/winter - hopefully enough experience gathered on this before I get my finalize your order call. I'm assumingthat the X willbe likely the best AWD car available inthe worldwhen it comes.
- How much room in the trunk+frunk on the S compared to the X (especially with 3rd row folded or even better taken out)?
Also will be exciting to see EU/Norway pricing on the S as this will set the tone for the X.
Any thoughts on this would be really appreciated!
Greetings from Norway (according to George B one of Tesla's EU strongholds)
So I guess it comes down to:
- Is there a possibility of EU production Model X delivery within 2013? (might consider upgrade to Sig if tis would help a lot)
- Will there be a bigger battery than the 85 kW available once the X debuts?
- How will the RWD Model S handle on ice/snow (we have 4-5 months of that)? Will be very interesting to hear from people in the US and Canada who might test it now i fall/winter - hopefully enough experience gathered on this before I get my finalize your order call. I'm assumingthat the X willbe likely the best AWD car available inthe worldwhen it comes.
- How much room in the trunk+frunk on the S compared to the X (especially with 3rd row folded or even better taken out)?
Also will be exciting to see EU/Norway pricing on the S as this will set the tone for the X.
Any thoughts on this would be really appreciated!
Greetings from Norway (according to George B one of Tesla's EU strongholds)
WhiteKnight
_____ P85 #549 _____ Sig Red / Sig White
I will take a stab at responding - see responses below:
FWIW I think the Model S is more beautiful but the Model X more thoroughly crushes its competition because of all its amazing features, so I chose my brain over my heart for the reasons you outline. Having 18 months to save up didn't hurt either.
But I definitely think you should get both!
FYI I expect an AWD Model S (0-60 in <= 3.7 seconds) to come to market when the Model X does (2014) or in 2015.
FWIW I think the Model S is more beautiful but the Model X more thoroughly crushes its competition because of all its amazing features, so I chose my brain over my heart for the reasons you outline. Having 18 months to save up didn't hurt either.
But I definitely think you should get both!
FYI I expect an AWD Model S (0-60 in <= 3.7 seconds) to come to market when the Model X does (2014) or in 2015.
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jbherman
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Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
You convinced me to get both! Now I just have to convince the missus. Really hard to justify getting both with the big battery though, as you really only need one car for long distance. But I do want the S performance, and can't bear to wait another year for the X performance, which will never be as beatiful as the S.
And with regards to the Model S with front motor, I have been thinking this too, but what makes you so sure it will be done? And from a customer perspective: won't that make a lot of people who just one year before got the Model S performance kinda mad? I know I would be just a little angry.
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
But all car model lines add new features and options every year. Designs and performance improve. This would be no different ... or am I missing something?
Citizen-T
Active Member
Does it anger you when this year's computers are twice as fast as the one you just bought last year? I'm with Bonnie, this is a non-issue. Everyone knows that Model S 2.0 is going to be better than the current iteration, people won't be "mad".
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
They've announced the X with front motor, IF they intend on building S perf. with two motors as early as 2014 it'd be fair to announce it now.
WhiteKnight
_____ P85 #549 _____ Sig Red / Sig White
I agree that if you shell out $110,000 USD for the fastest Tesla Model S (especially if you were stretching to get there and justifying it by saying "I'll hold it for 10 years and save $20,000+ in gas over the life of the car") and two years later there is a killer new model that is even faster it would be a real bummer. But I think for anyone doing the research it is not a secret. If you hang out on TMC long enough I think it's obvious that they will make an AWD Model S and it will be faster.
It really reminds me of when the first iPhone came out and it was EDGE and everybody was bummed it was not 3G and everybody knew the next phone would be 3G. Still there were a ton of people that bought the Gen 1 iPhone and later got the 3G (myself included). I couldn't do this with a $50-$100K car though which is why I am waiting.
Maybe you should lease a Model S and buy a Model X. That way in 2-4 years you can swap for the AWD Model S?
Citizen-T
Active Member
This is exactly why I am considering leasing. I don't want to wait until 2014, but with how fast Tesla is iterating, I might want whatever the latest and greatest is after 3 or 4 years.
WhiteKnight
_____ P85 #549 _____ Sig Red / Sig White
If Tesla or a third party offered a lease in the United States I would definitely lease. Takes all the apprehension out of "buying" the car.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
2 years beforehand? Apple doesn't announce the latest iPhone or Macbook until weeks before it ships. It's not usually a good thing to announce you have a better version of a product coming while you're trying to move the one you have now -- especially if the new product is 2 years out.
I agree. I think it'd be a bad move to announce that the Performance Model S you've had on order (well, the Model S not the performance version) for 3 years will be out of date very soon. We all know this will happen at some point but no need to let the people know who still haven't gotten their car about it. Some may cancel and decide to wait.
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