I drive 22 miles each way to work. Mostly highway. I set autopilot on 63 MPH and usually use 240-260 wh/mile. This equates to right at the rated range. Outdoor temps have been in the 70’s and 80’s. Probably won’t be quite this good when it gets hotter or colder. But under the conditions I described, the rated mileage seems to be right on target.
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My new Model Y's range SUCKS
- Thread starter Cevap Babo
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Hey All. I just picked up a Performance Model Y without PUP and drove over 400 miles for work. Mostly highway driving but managed to get 259 Wh/mi doing 75 mi/hr and under. It was over 90 degrees F for most of the drive, but I’m pretty happy with those results.
I am also concerned about the range on my MY PUP and I even swapped out the Uberturbines with 20” Sportline TSS wheels to increase my range.
I have a 90 mile round trip commute on mostly freeway and averaged 356 wh/mi. I averaged 75mph, usually have AC on, use the auto pilot often and don’t always drive conservatively but nothing crazy. I just hooked up Sentry so it hasn’t been a factor for the last week and I also lowered psi to 39 all around to increase comfort of the ride but this still seems much more inefficient than what I expected. Thoughts?
I have a 90 mile round trip commute on mostly freeway and averaged 356 wh/mi. I averaged 75mph, usually have AC on, use the auto pilot often and don’t always drive conservatively but nothing crazy. I just hooked up Sentry so it hasn’t been a factor for the last week and I also lowered psi to 39 all around to increase comfort of the ride but this still seems much more inefficient than what I expected. Thoughts?
I have a feeling the Gemini wheels make a bigger difference than we might give them credit for. Seems like the people reporting decent range have the Gemini wheels.
I didn't like the look of the Gemeni wheels and was sure I'd remove the covers. Now that I have them, I really like how they look with the covers on. Less susceptible to curb rash and a smoother ride are important pluses as is the extra $2k in my pocket.
mikes_fsd
Banned
The math does not work here, lets see if we can work this out together.
300+ miles at the low end of your consumption 300 Wh/mi would give us:
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300 (mi) * 0.300 (kWh/mi) = 90 kWh packSo either your consumption is better or you are not getting over 300 miles of range.
For you to hit 300 mile range on a 75 kWh pack you would be averaging 250 Wh/mile.
mikes_fsd
Banned
My bad.
The math still doesn't add up for the 300+ miles with 300+ Wh/mi consumption.
I was the same way. I didn’t like the Gemini wheels much in the website photos. I had planned to remove the covers. The minute I saw them in person my opinion changed. The actually look really good on the car. If they improve range, all the better.
Now I regret switching my order to Stealth with Inductions 
Here's something interesting from an older Car and Driver article (2020 Tesla Model Y Review, Pricing, and Specs)
Here's something interesting from an older Car and Driver article (2020 Tesla Model Y Review, Pricing, and Specs)
Interesting that they haven't gotten expected fuel economy either ... also, specs that they listed (and tested) showed 80.5kWh battery - so I wonder if EPA's test was done with different battery and maybe different configuration than the one being sold now. I know that average speed of EPA test on highway is 48mph, so their range estimate is probably meaningless anyway ...
Guess I was not totally clear. I have done a total of 300 miles since getting the car, not on one charge. Three trips over 50 miles, one over 100 miles. My consumption for the trips was between 300 - 350 Wh/mi. With a 74Kwh battery that gives me an expected range of 74000/350 to 74000/300 = 211 to 247 miles. That is why I am questioning if there is some variance in people's range experience, especially given the OP's numbers.
rxlawdude
Active Member
Because you're driving it 30% more aggressively than the Bolt.
Checking back in...
My service did not produce any real solutions. Tesla did remote diagnostics again and said all is good. Wipers were fixed but they did not bother to fix chipped hood paint. Phone charger still doesn't work and the tech said it was charging his iPhone so I guess I'm SOL.
As far as the heat pump issue, that's the only thing that makes sense as the brakes are certainly not the issue. I would have heard/smelled something by now.
One thing I do notice is that my A/C takes a while to kick in. I mean something like 15 miles before its blowing cold air. Also, something that I can only describe as "deep breathing" noise every once in a while (like a deep breath in followed by a breath out). It is really loud and I didn't know whether it was normal or not and never reported it. My worst mileage on about a 250 mile charge (I charged to 90%) was 150 miles with remaining range under 10 miles and the car freaking out.
Any input would be appreciated as I have pretty much given up on this car ever giving me even 75% efficiency as some here are reporting.
As some have said, any acceleration puts me above 900Wh, I am able to normalize consumption with cruise mode to just above 280 Wh but it takes good 10+ miles on flat straight road to get there. This coincides with AC starting to blow cold air...
Thats it for now.
My service did not produce any real solutions. Tesla did remote diagnostics again and said all is good. Wipers were fixed but they did not bother to fix chipped hood paint. Phone charger still doesn't work and the tech said it was charging his iPhone so I guess I'm SOL.
As far as the heat pump issue, that's the only thing that makes sense as the brakes are certainly not the issue. I would have heard/smelled something by now.
One thing I do notice is that my A/C takes a while to kick in. I mean something like 15 miles before its blowing cold air. Also, something that I can only describe as "deep breathing" noise every once in a while (like a deep breath in followed by a breath out). It is really loud and I didn't know whether it was normal or not and never reported it. My worst mileage on about a 250 mile charge (I charged to 90%) was 150 miles with remaining range under 10 miles and the car freaking out.
Any input would be appreciated as I have pretty much given up on this car ever giving me even 75% efficiency as some here are reporting.
As some have said, any acceleration puts me above 900Wh, I am able to normalize consumption with cruise mode to just above 280 Wh but it takes good 10+ miles on flat straight road to get there. This coincides with AC starting to blow cold air...
Thats it for now.
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Your AC not working ~immediately is a bad sign. You should take videos and document these things.
I don't have anything substantial add, but I did notice a few very large peaks (two >>900Wh) on my Consumption window after I picked up my car. This was before I drove it home. I'm thinking it was because of factory testing (and/or the AC & fan set on max while my car was sitting out in the sun for pick-up).
My hwy driving range seem reasonable, but I generally stay in the passing lanes.
Your AC not working ~immediately is a bad sign. You should take videos and document these things.
I don't have anything substantial add, but I did notice a few very large peaks (two >>900Wh) on my Consumption window after I picked up my car. This was before I drove it home. I'm thinking it was because of factory testing (and/or the AC & fan set on max while my car was sitting out in the sun for pick-up).
My hwy driving range seem reasonable, but I generally stay in the passing lanes.
rxlawdude
Active Member
Did a 150 mile loop yesterday (5400 ft gain and loss) and averaged 270wH/mi. Lots of cruising at 70-80mph.
This compares favorably to our M3 with Pilot A/S 3+ (not LRR) tires. Once the tires are broken in on the Y, and increasing tire pressure by 3 psi, I expect to settle in around 250wH/mi in day-day use.
This compares favorably to our M3 with Pilot A/S 3+ (not LRR) tires. Once the tires are broken in on the Y, and increasing tire pressure by 3 psi, I expect to settle in around 250wH/mi in day-day use.
Another Bay Area data-point:
Highway miles from Mountain View to Santa Cruz via Hwy 17 (over and back) and back to Santa Clara so twisty with somewhat substantial elevation change.
- AC set to 70deg, outside ambient was ~65deg
- 82.3 miles
- 23 kWh
- 283 Wh/mi average
I'm going to guess my average speed was about 65mph. I tried to drive normally and passed quite a few slower drivers. Unfortunately, I got pulled over for speeding on Hwy 17 northbound around a mile past Summit Rd on the return leg. The officer said I was doing ~70 in a 40 construction zone. UGH--I go over Hwy 17 regularly and totally didn't see the construction warning signs.
Highway miles from Mountain View to Santa Cruz via Hwy 17 (over and back) and back to Santa Clara so twisty with somewhat substantial elevation change.
- AC set to 70deg, outside ambient was ~65deg
- 82.3 miles
- 23 kWh
- 283 Wh/mi average
I'm going to guess my average speed was about 65mph. I tried to drive normally and passed quite a few slower drivers. Unfortunately, I got pulled over for speeding on Hwy 17 northbound around a mile past Summit Rd on the return leg. The officer said I was doing ~70 in a 40 construction zone. UGH--I go over Hwy 17 regularly and totally didn't see the construction warning signs.
Bikeman
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