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Nuclear power
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rxlawdude
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Well, those wouldn't have to provide lead jockstraps to male customers then.Most of them were never fueled
nwdiver
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dhrivnak
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But there is hope as an abandoned nuclear plant in my back yard Phipps Bend is now producing power as a solar farm.In all seriousness I hope they do finish the plant... then they can finish the 4 unit plant in Hartsville,TN
Then when that's done they can finish the 2 units in Satsop...
And then they can finish Columbia units 1 & 4...
And the two units at Marble hill... $2.5B spent... 0kWh generated...
3 Units at the Cherokee Nuclear power plant. $6B spent... at least James Cameron got some use out of it for 'The Abyss'; Proof that SC is literally insane since they made the same mistake ~30 years later and now there's spending $20M/yr to preserve their shame...
.... Yellow Creek near luka, MS. Wow... this cost $4B?... 4 units...
There's..... there's an absurd number of partially finished nuclear plants littering the country....
I mean... if you turned every abandoned nuclear plant into an amusement park it would outnumber SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, Disney AND 6 flags.... We could call it 'Our country is unable to learn from our mistakes.... world'....
Got it. Nuke plant saddling the taxpayers with billions of Pounds of debt good. Tidal power with a fraction the price bad.
UK Government Won't Back Swansea Tidal Lagoon Project | CleanTechnica
WannabeOwner
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I can't see a Seven Estuary tidal project ever getting the go ahead. The tides are huge (more than 10M / 40 feet) so in theory huge amounts of power available ... but there is bird life, and so on, that will be impacted and every time this has come up the anti-debate is massive. We probably have international wildlife agreements in place that would also be impacted. No/little opportunity to use the skills / technology elsewhere. Whilst the tides are predictable, they change, and don't always coincide with peak usage; perhaps we could drag the moon to a more helpful orbit ...
We Brits don't want Wind Turbines (or "Wind Flowers" as I call them to dilute the detractors) from being a blot on the landscape, and in many places we don't want PV on rooftops either e.g. if a building is "listed" as being of historical significance (and that can be anything, including modern rubbish) - here's hoping the Musk Roof Tiles solves that for the NIMBYs.
So we are doing the slightly more expensive offshore wind turbines instead. We have huge areas around us of shallow sea, so are in a Good Place for that, and probably acquiring good, exportable, skills too.
So if we keep cracking-on with Wind Power, and some PV, I'm happy. Politicians who back Nuclear need shooting though ...
mspohr
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Nuclear fusion power in 10 years (still and again)
Nuclear Fusion Power Could Be Here by 2030, One Company Says
Nuclear Fusion Power Could Be Here by 2030, One Company Says
mspohr
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http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...ollar-nuclear-reactor-critics-call-boondoggle
Looks like fast breeder boondoggle is on the way.
Looks like fast breeder boondoggle is on the way.
nwdiver
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SageBrush
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I read the other day an opinion that no new NG capacity will come online once the current order pipeline is exhausted. That does not seem far fetched. As for nuclear and coal, it exists due to Trumper stupidity.
“I believe there should be a wall.....on the Canadian border. So when the Americans run out of healthcare, they can’t crawl over into Canada. They should make the wall 3 foot high, just to take the piss. So when the Americans are crawling over because their lungs are filled with coal from getting all their jobs back...”
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And offshore is a lot more expensive than regular wind. But, on the contrary, both types of wind power will cost more when paired with stationary storage, something that will be needed for large scale renewables rollout. Still probably (and hopefully) cheaper though.
SageBrush
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Off-shore wind is dropping in price fast, even in Johnny-come-lately USA. MA just signed a $65/MWh PPA. Off-shore also has a large advantage over land wind in being overall higher and more predictable wind speeds. The trade-off is in higher infrastructure and installation costs but it will looks like the LCOE normalized for capacity production value and energy value on the wholesale markets of these two techs are converging. And that is saying something, considering just how dirt cheap land based wind is today.
WannabeOwner
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Is there an "offset" for that of the saving on constructing peaker-plants, and having them sit there doing nothing-most-of-time?
mspohr
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One of the factors in closing SO nuclear plant is that they had to have spinning reserves equal to the plant output in case it went offline suddenly. Huge expense.
Brando
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Brando
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Nuclear reactors: permanent shutdowns by country worldwide 2018 | Statistic
That was in Feb. 2018 - Last couple of days Atomic reactors in Sweden, Finland and at least 4 in France shut down because the water was too hot to cool down the reactors. At least one coal plant shut down - also because of cooling problems. who knew?
Hot weather forces 4 French nuclear reactors to shut down
Nuclear power takes a hit as European heatwave rolls on
EDF Shuts Down Nuclear Reactors Because Water Is Too Hot
That was in Feb. 2018 - Last couple of days Atomic reactors in Sweden, Finland and at least 4 in France shut down because the water was too hot to cool down the reactors. At least one coal plant shut down - also because of cooling problems. who knew?
Hot weather forces 4 French nuclear reactors to shut down
Nuclear power takes a hit as European heatwave rolls on
EDF Shuts Down Nuclear Reactors Because Water Is Too Hot
Vogtle making "significant progress" on construction. Oh, and another $2,300,000,000 cost increase too...
Surely this will be the last one before construction is complete in 2021
Progress at Vogtle, but cost forecast rises - World Nuclear News
Surely this will be the last one before construction is complete in 2021
Progress at Vogtle, but cost forecast rises - World Nuclear News
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