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Perhaps shop around, others make the same CCS adapter Tesla sells:
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OEM CCS adapter now available to order in North America, Retrofit for older cars coming in 2023
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I see a bunch of them on Amazon. Wondering when the anatomically correct Amazon Basic version would be available. LOL
Yup, when you need the adapter, it's 'priceless'.
Going forward, that might be true, but it will be several years before the existing CCS1 network is converted to NACS.
I understand that. It's just that I think we are a long way from buildout even for CCS, and if you travel even a short distance from population centers, even in California. the pickings get very limited. Maybe it won't be so much of an issue in 3 years, but for now I think the CCS adapter is a great deal. Especially if you are CCS enabled already.
Most likely they are EVgo stations with the built-in Tesla CHAdeMO adapters, so not true NACS plugs.
According to the site, the official retrofit is still not available for the Model 3. It still says check back in mid 2023. Next Sunday is mid 2023.
More Charging companies adding NACS.
electrek.co
Electrify America, Blink to add Tesla’s NACS connector to their EV chargers
Electrify America and Blink are the latest EV charging station makers to announce that they’ll add NACS connectors to their EV chargers.
electrek.co
Something about plugging high voltage power into a $50K+ car makes me think I might spend the extra $90 and buy the actual Tesla CCS adaptor.
Of course, the overall ROI argument probably is more related to getting an older vehicle updated (some 2019 and prior models). But with the Tesla OEM adaptor (and warranty I imagine) only $175 I think I'd probably go down that path.
I'm still hoping older models will be able to get a CCS update AND adaptor for ~350-400$ all in, I think that's probably still worth it for a traveller type.
Aren't they charging $450 for the retrofit and adapter for the Model S and X. I expect it to cost the same for the Model 3 and Y as well.
If you are worried about quality of a '250 kW' adapter, run it about half its rating. Should be no problem for Model 3 RWD that tops out at 175 kW but only for a short period. Plus, it's not a $50K car.
MIC Tesla Model 3 SR+ Fast Charging Test Reveals Strong Results
Today we will take a look at one of the latest and most interesting fast charging tests in Europe of the Made-in-China Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus.
insideevs.com
With Model 3 LR AWD, probably better to get the Tesla CCS adapter.
2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD With 82 kWh Battery: Charging Analysis
Today we will take a look at the most recent fast charging test of the 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range version, conducted by Bjørn Nyland at a V3 Supercharger.
insideevs.com
While certainly possible if not probable, it’s very common for an OEM to have a different pricing across say an entry line, mid line and top line model - for the EXACT SAME PART. Not skewed by premium paint, etc. Same goes for time estimates for installation…can be different for some issue and part installation across model lines even when the model line doesn’t t dictate more time is required.
Not saying thats going to happen, but it does happen.
Even that chart shows it “tops out” above 175 KW, I certainly get the full 250 kw (~1090 m/hr) for ~7-10 minutes from very low SOC, and hold well above 150 KW For much longer than that.If you are worried about quality of a '250 kW' adapter, run it about half its rating. Should be no problem for Model 3 RWD that tops out at 175 kW but only for a short period. Plus, it's not a $50K car.
MIC Tesla Model 3 SR+ Fast Charging Test Reveals Strong Results
Today we will take a look at one of the latest and most interesting fast charging tests in Europe of the Made-in-China Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus.
With Model 3 LR AWD, probably better to get the Tesla CCS adapter.
2021 Tesla Model 3 LR AWD With 82 kWh Battery: Charging Analysis
Today we will take a look at the most recent fast charging test of the 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range version, conducted by Bjørn Nyland at a V3 Supercharger.
Most CCS chargers which can deliver up to 350 kw, seem to only give a max ~ 190 kw to a Tesla, although I think there is something about a 2018 M3 LR that is optimal, but I doubt I‘d get more than what others have gotten at 190 kw max.
For the Model 3 LFP, since you are not preheating the battery, you will not get that high rate on initial charge and will probably never see >125kW. 1/2 the current, 1/4 the heat - or something like that. Problem solved!
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Probably true, but that car is most likely not a car in need of a “retrofit” having CCS enabled from purchase.
come to think of it, this entire thread probably predates the release of LFP battery equiped cars.
that said, MAN if that is true that these first LFP equipped cars simply cannot access the full power of a 250 kw supercharger or even a 150 kw supercharger, I wonder how many people buy that car for the savings or possibly better battery management and realize that they may end up spending 50-100% more time at a supercharger charging? Is it detailed anywhere by Tesla that this car is crippled in that way?
No, they are not crippled. Smaller batteries can't take as much charging power. Every Tesla with a smaller battery has a lower maximum kW it can charge at than the larger batteries, and yes, they list the details in the specs section on the web site. Like here for the Model 3 RWD:
And no they don't need to charge 50-100% longer, partially because they are more efficient. (The charge curve is also different.)
For example in a 15 minute charge starting at 10% the:
- Model Y LR gains 98 miles of range when driven at 80 MPH.
- Model 3 RWD gains 106 miles of range when driven at 80 MPH.
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