Out of Spec doing a Cybertruck vs. R1T vs. Lightning vs. Silverado EV cross country race. Who wins?

[Daniel in SD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766495101641965727

My guess:

1. Silverado EV - the only thing stopping it is CCS reliability. It is the small battery version (180kwh).
2. Cybertruck - Superchargers!
3. Lightning - I assume it will also use superchargers
4. Rivian - Most efficient but can only use CCS

 

[Xenoilphobe]

Before @T3SLAROD shows up and tells you the Ford will win, it won't, whomever can use the Supercharger network will win. Silverado should win, but the CSS Network is like a FFord, frequently found on road dead... The truck with the smallest EV wheels and tires will win.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Before @T3SLAROD shows up and tells you the Ford will win, it won't, whomever can use the Supercharger network will win. Silverado should win, but the CSS Network is like a FFord, frequently found on road dead...

No way Ford wins. Cybertruck charges faster and Kyle is driving it. He'll get it down to 0% every stop.

 

[T3SLAROD]

Before @T3SLAROD shows up and tells you the Ford will win, it won't, whomever can use the Supercharger network will win. Silverado should win, but the CSS Network is like a FFord, frequently found on road dead...

Except the Ford won’t win, 3 years old tech vs new tech. It shouldn’t win.

Not sure why you thought I would come in here saying Ford would win smh….

 

[Xenoilphobe]

Except the Ford won’t win, 3 years old tech vs new tech. It shouldn’t win.

Not sure why you thought I would come in here saying Ford would win smh….

I was just making sure you where on the clock

 

[T3SLAROD]

I was just making sure you where on the clock

Lmao… aren’t we both on the clock?

Actually Car and Driver just did a test a said it gets 250 miles @ 75 mph which is impressive compared to the Lightning which would net 200 miles at most.

 

[Daniel in SD]

For reference. I think Silverado EV is about 50% better than Hummer.
Drag Coefficients

1. 0.30 Rivian (also smallest frontal area)
2. 0.33 Silverado EV (probably bigger frontal area than cybertruck)
3. 0.34 Cybertruck (extraordinary given the ridiculous shape)
4. 0.44 Lightning (why???)
5. 0.50 Hummer EV (lol)

 

[Daniel in SD]

"Our plan was to run no windshield wiper because of efficiency"
That's the mindset that will win this race.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766523759765176626

 

[Xenoilphobe]

Essentially a Pinewood Derby for EV tech nerds, I wonder who gets rear ended first doing 40 MPH in a 75 MPH zone.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Essentially a Pinewood Derby for EV tech nerds, I wonder who gets rear ended first doing 40 MPH in a 75 MPH zone.

I assume these are all experienced EV drivers. Much faster to go 75mph vs. 85mph and then 40mph.
The cool thing about this race is the optimal speed is probably only a little above the speed limit whereas with the fastest charging EVs it's starting to get dangerous.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Hasn't stopped to charge and is in second place? How is that even possible? Changing my prediction to Cybertruck victory.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766534335329415317

 

[T3SLAROD]

The Cybertruck is going to win this hands down. Lightning will come in last and Silverado 2nd.

Also, I would like to see cost. While the Silverado has not stopped to charge I'm guessing it's going to be a pretty penny to charge.

 

[Xenoilphobe]

The Cybertruck is going to win this hands down. Lightning will come in last and Silverado 2nd.

Also, I would like to see cost. While the Silverado has not stopped to charge I'm guessing it's going to be a pretty penny to charge.

Hopefully they pulled the mirrors off, I already ordered new stick on mirrors to pass state inspection. Just stick to the A Pillars for the Feds.

 

[gsmith123]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say CT pulls out a win. I know the range and charge curve aren't as good as we'd like, but the overall charge curve + efficiency makes it reasonably efficient.

Even without CCS support I think the CT probably has the best charging options (given it's "correct" charge port placement for Superchargers and ability to use all Superchargers, whereas Lightning is limited in both regards).

 

[HitchHiker71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766612806059626758

 

[Daniel in SD]

What's the deal with cooling the supercharger connection? I didn't realize connector heat was a limiting factor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766681793250361771

Bearded Tesla says the Silverado has charged 3 times vs. 7 times for the Cybertruck and they're all neck and neck. Pretty sure he's driving too slow.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766684797064069501

 

[MP3Mike]

V2 handles could overheat, I haven't heard of that being a problem on V3s.

 

[gsmith123]

It's rare. But (from what I've heard) if all the factors come together in just the right (or wrong) way it's possible to hit thermal limits on V3 cables:

- warm weather
- large battery Tesla (CT or newer S/X)
- plug in at very state of charge to pull very high current for the longest time possible

The average driver would probably never notice.

 

[HitchHiker71]

V2 handles could overheat, I haven't heard of that being a problem on V3s.

Kyle posted a couple of times that they have had to use V2 chargers on their route as there are no V3 chargers available within range.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Silverado team finally got some decent charging speeds. Apparently manual preconditioning does get the battery hot enough (or it's some other bug.)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766764217602834738

https://twitter.com/x/status/1766766101562614052