Wow ... it's like Back to the Future ... we can go back and change the past to correct the future ... we live in wonderful timesIn fact, I would like to thank the Moderator for saving my blushes
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Wow ... it's like Back to the Future ... we can go back and change the past to correct the future ... we live in wonderful timesIn fact, I would like to thank the Moderator for saving my blushes
Now I will look like an idiot until the singularity!In fact, I would like to thank the Moderator for saving my blushes
They don’t normally. It was only because the vehicles produced had less range that what people ordered so where offered a choice of either take one with less range and a discount or wait longer for your order with the range you expected.Saving this for the next (inevitable) "But Tesla never give discounts!" comment I see...
As far as I recall it went like this....Tesla was doing real well in China, sold every car they made...then the Chinese government decided to stir up some trouble and a consumer boycott was orchestrated...this left a lot of surplus cars that were shipped to Europe and offered to those on the waiting list who would be offered a chance to receive a car quicker...They don’t normally. It was only because the vehicles produced had less range that what people ordered so where offered a choice of either take one with less range and a discount or wait longer for your order with the range you expected.
People in the UK weren’t offered this because we didn‘t have the longer range in the first place, nor did we have a cheaper price
I got mine the same time was really upset it only had only a 75kwh -My only request was for the 82kwh battery, adviser assured I had the 82kwh battery - I was never offered a discount-just different vague answers from support-they should be more transparent w/battery size ion purchase -some people prob don’t mind a smaller battery -while others would pay more for the bigger one -yet they just put any battery size in same trim & charge the same price, I could if kept the acceleration boost if my battery was bigger, more powerfulIt’s a Made in China M3LR LG75 delivered September 2021… can I add for fairness sake that I was given a €2000 discount because of the battery…and in fact, if I recall correctly, I saved another €1000 because the early delivery meant I was entitled to a government subsidy
your lucky -I heard it’s required for Tesla to be transparent w/battery size upon purchase, not sure what country Sweden ? It should be required w/all Tesla sales- 75kwh battery was 2019, 2020 model, the 82kwh, 79kwh was the 2021 model. According to my VIN decoding -I was suppose to have a BT42 battery in my car - not a 75kwh battery. Support gives different vague answers, If according to my VIN -I should have a BT42 battery, then that’s what I should have, not a 75kwh battery.It’s a Made in China M3LR LG75 delivered September 2021… can I add for fairness sake that I was given a €2000 discount because of the battery…and in fact, if I recall correctly, I saved another €1000 because the early delivery meant I was entitled to a government subsidy
Please understand it wasn’t a pleasant buying experience at all ! In fact it was one of the most stressful things I’ve ever done.I got mine the same time was really upset it only had only a 75kwh -My only request was for the 82kwh battery, adviser assured I had the 82kwh battery - I was never offered a discount-just different vague answers from support-they should be more transparent w/battery size ion purchase -some people prob don’t mind a smaller battery -while others would pay more for the bigger one -yet they just put any battery size in same trim & charge the same price, I could if kept the acceleration boost if my battery was bigger, more powerful
your lucky -I heard it’s required for Tesla to be transparent w/battery size upon purchase, not sure what country Sweden ? It should be required w/all Tesla sales- 75kwh battery was 2019, 2020 model, the 82kwh, 79kwh was the 2021 model. According to my VIN decoding -I was suppose to have a BT42 battery in my car - not a 75kwh battery. Support gives different vague answers, If according to my VIN -I should have a BT42 battery, then that’s what I should have, not a 75kwh battery.
so my hatred of Volvo was greater than my love for a bigger battery
I treat it all as water under the bridge and I do love my Tesla
I read somewhere that NMC chemistry has slightly lower degradation than NCA. I drive an M3 LR with one of the early 2021 LG packs and in cold weather I could not see any difference in acceleration comparing with warm. I’m not living in a country with extreme cold weather so maybe I’m not the best example but in 3 years I only experience once (during a holiday in France) when it looks like the car was not charging at all for something like 2-3 minutes due to cold battery after which all looked ok. For comparison with NCA, behaviour in cold climate and some tips & tricks on cold weather, I recommend watching some materials of Tesla Bjorn on YouTube.Now that LG NMC packs are being used in the US for Model 3-LR vehicles, I'm suddenly interested in this topic.
It seems clear that the LG NMC packs charge more slowly than Panasonic NCA packs (although maybe not as slowly as they did before a late-2021 software update), and the kWh capacity is obviously lower.
But there are some mentions about the LG packs having better cold weather performance (acceleration) at low SOC.
Are there any other advantages for the LG NMC packs over the Panasonic NCA packs? I'm specifically wondering about other cold-weather stuff, like max regen when the battery pack is cold and Supercharging speeds when the pack is cold, both of which are quite poor in my 2018 Model 3 with a NCA battery. (When compared to a previous EV that I owned with NMC cells, the regen in my Tesla with NCA when the battery is cold is dramatically lower than in my old EV with NMC. But idk if that’s an NMC vs NCA thing or just a Tesla thing.)
Thanks!
So are you saying that because the regeneration of the 5L is more efficient...then the range difference between the 5L and 3L isn’t as great as it should be ?This link shows that the 3L has to be 10C warmer and 10% lower in SoC to give the same regeneration performance as the 5L.
No. The regeneration of the 5L is not more efficient, assuming the brakes are not used.So are you saying that because the regeneration of the 5L is more efficient...then the range difference between the 5L and 3L isn’t as great as it should be ?
Thank you for replying.....but I have to be honest I am confused...you said that the 3L has to be warmer and have a lower charged to be equal in regeneration as the 5L...so why doesn’t that make the 5L more efficient at regen ?No. The regeneration of the 5L is not more efficient, assuming the brakes are not used.
I get it...thank youI think it means that the 5L can regenerate (sink) more power at lower temperatures and higher states of charge. It can just brake regeneratively a little harder, which doesn’t mean it’s more efficient, in the sense of providing greater range.
Model 3 Performance in the US Market:i haven't read the whole thread so sorry if its been posted..
does anyone have reference for Start month/year for all 3 battery types? or can it be derived from VIN?
i'm in a market for used M3/P but from salvage auctions so won't have access to battery label n such...