It's not really a case of jumping ship. Tesla has a long term partnership with Panasonic in the US. For China, Tesla signed contracts with LG and CATL. Ideally Tesla don't want to be shipping batteries around the world, they want to source locally, but equally batteries are their biggest constraint so are forced to in some situations. Panasonic don't make batteries in China so the majority of MiC vehicles will come with batteries from LG and CATL.
well this clears up absolutely EVERYTHING
I'm sure most people would take a 20 mile increase in range if offered?
I find it difficult to understand the amount of angst this thread has generated
I have a April build 2021v MiC M3 LR.
I don't really care who made the battery, or what the published "Official" range is: as with ICE MPG figures they are virtually meaningless.
My experience is that over 4000 miles of very mixed driving the average energy consumption is shown as 259 wh/mile, it ranges from 199 to 450, depending on where and when I drive. Assuming a 75kwh battery (is it?) and keeping it charged between 10% and 90% that gives me an available charge of 80% of the battery or 60kwh or 231 miles. I'm sure it will decrease in the winter.
Most of my charging is at home, but when I have arrived at a V3 Supercharger with less than 10% battery the initial charge rate was 220kw, it slowed and was at about 120 when it stopped at 90%. I monitor battery %, not range.
The car works, meets my needs and is fun to drive.
You can get a 20 mile range increase by changing the way you drive (boringly), or by keeping the car in a warm garage....I'm sure most people would take a 20 mile increase in range if offered?
Knowing there is a newer battery that will give you an extra 20 mile range, for what should be no additional cost, is worth having and therefore knowing when that change will happen is what is difficult to predict and really the subject of this thread.
At the moment it is disappointing that if you are in the UK you get the old battery but in mainland Europe, Australia etc you get the new one, for the same price. It's as if they need to run down inventory of the old batteries and decided to give it to the British as they live on a small island so don't need to travel far
True but if you did that and have the newer battery you would have an extra 40 mile range.
I completely agree with you. It's like a worm hole once you try and wrap your head around it, other meaningless points seem to take priority on a decision on buying a car. Quite frankly as Durzel mentioned earlier the only choice we have is to either buy or not buy. I too don't see residuals dropping depending on which battery you have. Technology advances and holding out for the next best thing can have you waiting a very, very long time. When i purchased mine, I got the smaller frunk but missed out on the octavalve. I was a little disappointed at the time but soon realised that it was insignificant to the grand scheme of things. I was able to get into one of the best cars imo (having gone through quite a lot) and enjoy it getting me to a-b with a smile on my face. Ignorance can also at times be bliss, and when it comes to reselling the new owner really won't care if it's Panasonic or LG battery, the only thing that matters with an EV is how far it can go. I personally don't think waiting an extra 5-10 mins should be a deciding factor unless you supercharge regularly (which could degrade the battery in the long run anyway). The 5-10 mins could be down to other variable factors even if you had different battery chemistry and most of us charge at home anyway.I find it difficult to understand the amount of angst this thread has generated
I have a April build 2021v MiC M3 LR.
I don't really care who made the battery, or what the published "Official" range is: as with ICE MPG figures they are virtually meaningless.
My experience is that over 4000 miles of very mixed driving the average energy consumption is shown as 259 wh/mile, it ranges from 199 to 450, depending on where and when I drive. Assuming a 75kwh battery (is it?) and keeping it charged between 10% and 90% that gives me an available charge of 80% of the battery or 60kwh or 231 miles. I'm sure it will decrease in the winter.
Most of my charging is at home, but when I have arrived at a V3 Supercharger with less than 10% battery the initial charge rate was 220kw, it slowed and was at about 120 when it stopped at 90%. I monitor battery %, not range.
The car works, meets my needs and is fun to drive.
I agree. If you go to the start of this thread, there’s a guy who did the same thing as you’re considering, this was like a year ago he was saying the same thing you’re saying.
