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And I prefer an M5/P85+
I prefer an M5/P85+ too but I own an e39 540i Sport and S60. The 540 Sport has factory //M parts on it, why can't my S60 get "+" parts too!
19's are 8.0 wideAre you sure the stock 21" wheels are 9.5" wide? I'd think they are 8.5" wide, and the 19's are 8.0" wide.
I'm not sure how Tesla is going to balance their obligations to the stability control regulations against how they sell piece parts. Can they sell bits that will change the balance of the car and thus the stability of the car without providing the whole package? Not being in the vehicle manufacturer business it is unclear to me exactly what they can do from both a regulatory and liability standpoint.
I was told today that the 9 " wheels were not going to be sold outside of the package. Not sure I believe that answer.
All I want are the wider rims and tires.....Surely can be bought when available since people will bend, brake, and destroy them....I did on my 8.5's already once!
I received some clarification from our folks here. This mixup was my fault, the Performance Plus wheels are not available for purchase separately. Later this summer we will offer the Performance Plus as a retro-fit. The details for that are below, the cost will be $13,000.
This upgrade will include the following items from the factory installed Performance Plus option:
2 x Rear lower control arms with revised stiffer bushings
2 x Rear upper links with revised stiffer bushings
2 x 21" x 8.5" front wheels with 245/35R21 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires
2 x 21" x 9" rear wheels with 265/35R21 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires
This is a package engineered to provide the enthusiast driver with a more responsive car and added cornering grip while maintaining excellent ride quality. While this does not include the revised dampers and stabilizer bars that the factory option does include, we have engineered this package to offer the majority of the handling benefits without requiring a full suspension removal and replacement, which would be far more costly.
Well this is how the conversation went: I e-mailed ownership and asked when the 9" wheels would be available. They indicated that they were available on the website. I corrected them in a followup e-mail that those were the 8.5" wheels. They answered back that the 9" wheels would have to be ordered from the service center and to call them. I called the service center and they had no idea what I was talking about. They called the factory who told them that they would not be availabe along with the performance plus upgrades until mid summer sometime. I e-mailed back ownership, and nicely said that they needed to get on the same page to prevent everyone running around. Then I got this answer:
Well this is how the conversation went: I e-mailed ownership and asked when the 9" wheels would be available. They indicated that they were available on the website. I corrected them in a followup e-mail that those were the 8.5" wheels. They answered back that the 9" wheels would have to be ordered from the service center and to call them. I called the service center and they had no idea what I was talking about. They called the factory who told them that they would not be availabe along with the performance plus upgrades until mid summer sometime. I e-mailed back ownership, and nicely said that they needed to get on the same page to prevent everyone running around. Then I got this answer:
For $13k, I wouldn't buy it unless they took the suspension off the car.
Lloyd,
Ok, that is the first bit of concrete info. They are swapping out the upper and lower control arms but NOT the torque links (which appear to use the same bushings as the upper links although I did not press them out to confirm this).
Upper links are $220 each. The lowers are large castings so I'm guessing $1K each. Bushings will cost the same as durometer should not affect pricing. If they are not value pricing those arms and I am correct, P85s with 21s should be able to switch to Pilots and slap $2500 worth of arms on their cars and get what you would get with the field upgrade less a small amount of 0-60 reduction and less understeer. I'll try not to get my hopes up.