Performance Plus (+) Upgrade

[Litigate28]

Mine is march 31st production number 80693. It has the plus suspension. I wish it had been delayed a short while so that I didn't have it

I'm quite intrigued as to the difference. I'll have to find a late model P85D to try out one day and see how it compares.

 

[lolachampcar]

sorka,
It is about a two hour task to swap the suspension by any competent shop. I can not imagine there is not someone out there that would love to swap with you

 

[Chaserr]

I'm quite intrigued as to the difference. I'll have to find a late model P85D to try out one day and see how it compares.

If you've ever had a regular P85 loaner it drives like that. Not day and night different, just a softer and a little less responsive feeling overall, especially notable on turn-in with some speed.

 

[HankLloydRight]

If you've ever had a regular P85 loaner it drives like that. Not day and night different, just a softer and a little less responsive feeling overall, especially notable on turn-in with some speed.

Not really. The front motor in a D car, especially the P85D(+) changes the handling a lot compared to a non+ RWD car.

 

[Chaserr]

I've never noticed the AWD cars to be inherently overly soft or harsh, the + is a more noticeable feeling to actual handling by far. AWD might add some small amount of perceived understeer but it's the same understeer change on a P85D+ as it is on a 70D. To that end, perhaps comparing to a non-P D car would be a better suggestion.

 

[HankLloydRight]

There are two factors here - ride and handling, which are not the same thing.

The ride between P85D (non +) and a P85 should be similar.

But the handling will be vastly different.

Now if you throw in the plus suspension (P85D+ vs P85), it's even more noticeable/different.

 

[Russell]

The highest P85D (CPO) is VIN: P77543


Hey fellas. I’m trying to confirm if a 2015 p85d has + suspension or not. After reading thru a ton of posts on the board, I am seeing April 30 as the cut off date but lots of varying VIN #s as “last vin #” Can anyone confirm or is it a crapshoot? Thanks in advance

5YJSA1H40FF081000
MFG date on door jam is 03/2015

Looks like it does not.

No Performance Plus Package(PX00)
TeslaScout- 5YJSA1H40FF081000 - MODEL_S P85D

 

[Alain13]

And how is the P85+ vs P85D+?

 

[Litigate28]

Looks like it does not.

No Performance Plus Package(PX00)
TeslaScout- 5YJSA1H40FF081000 - MODEL_S P85D

My car is PX00 and I have the + suspension. Seems the only way is the physical check.

 

[Chaserr]

And how is the P85+ vs P85D+?

Handling is very similar, P85D+ steering feels a little better (probably the extra "weight" feel of the front drive) and the car itself has appreciably more "go" under your right foot, especially with Ludi. P85D doesn't allow the rear end to slide nearly as much as the P85+ does, but that feels like a traction control tweak and not an AWD difference.

 

[HankLloydRight]

My car is PX00 and I have the + suspension. Seems the only way is the physical check.

Correct! If you read through this thread, there are lots of cars with PX00 that have the + suspension. So far, I haven't seen any cars with PX01 that don't have the + suspension, so visually checking the shocks is the only sure-fire way to know. Secondary to that, we've pretty much concluded any P85D made in April 2015 or earlier has the + suspension (and a couple in May, but that's it). I haven't seen a Pre-May 2015 P85D without the + suspension. Also keep in mind it's possible to have almost any wheel/tire configuration on these P85Ds, so just because a car might have 19" rims or a 21" non-staggered setup, doesn't mean it doesn't have the +.

 

[Litigate28]

Yup, I had 19s on mine. As a somewhat related aside, I just switched over to 21"s (Arachnids) and I cannot believe the difference in cornering. I am not a hard driver by any means, but the few times I pushed a quick corner on my 19s vs. now is a considerable difference.

 

[MC408]

Update!

I just picked up delivery today on a 2014 P85D. Vin 62975

Has px01 on build sheet and just turned the wheel to check. 130608-01-A.

Happy to have followed all the great info on this and other threads to help influence my decision! Thanks everyone. I’ll try and post a full report in the delivery experience and CPO threads.

 

[dark cloud]

it has black callipers??

 

[MC408]

it has black callipers??

Yes. Black calipers. Would have preferred red, but can’t be too picky when CPO (i mean Used Tesla) hunting!

 

[BrokerDon]

If you want to add a PLUS to your P85D like mine I think Abstract Ocean has them on sale TODAY for $2.99

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[Tech_Guy]

Anyone know if you can retrofit the plus suspension to a P100D? I ask because I love how the P85D+ handles, recently my service center has spoiled me with a P85D+ loaner

 

[HankLloydRight]

Yes it's mostly doable if you can get the parts . Talk to Rich Rebuilds (Carguru) on Youtube.

 

[dark cloud]

Anyone know if you can retrofit the plus suspension to a P100D? I ask because I love how the P85D+ handles, recently my service center has spoiled me with a P85D+ loaner

I would trade my suspension for your suspension, if we can include everything attached to it?

 

[jmillic]

The highest P85D (CPO) is VIN: P77543


Hey fellas. I’m trying to confirm if a 2015 p85d has + suspension or not. After reading thru a ton of posts on the board, I am seeing April 30 as the cut off date but lots of varying VIN #s as “last vin #” Can anyone confirm or is it a crapshoot? Thanks in advance

5YJSA1H40FF081000
MFG date on door jam is 03/2015

After forgetting to do this for about 4 months, I finally checked and my 2015 P85D March 2015 build also has + suspension. The VIN in P78318 making it one of the highest P85D+ out there.