Performance Upgrade Price Change!

[gizmoboy]

Are you talking about Model S or X? Because currently, for Model 3, even if the keyfob has passive unlock/lock, it would not unlock/lock the car unless you pull the door handle. So a passive M3 keyfob is actually a step above the MS and MX. Yeah for MS and MX, the mirrors will start unfolding when you get too close in the house, but not for the M3.

The M3 used to do this before an update in the Jan/Feb timeframe...

This 10,000X.
Those in CA applying for Red HOV stickers now thinking it will still be red in 2019 is gambling.

The red stickers have already been announced to be good until 2022.

Me too. I feel the same way. FSD would be the least expensive reparation they could offer.
It's a start Tesla - offer it! Don't TELL everyone it's your only offer though. Give other options too. You screwed up!

The number of us (myself included) who pre-bought FSD on their P3D- is surely low enough that they can offer us some other compensation for making our cars a blip in the history of Model 3 and depreciating it another 5K (ish).

 

[MXWing]

One thing to keep in mind regarding track mode is that it was developed and validated on the 3P+.

If the coding is ready to go, it made sense to release it right away.

The main headline on TMC right now is:

Tesla Model 3 Performance Track Mode Rushes Past Ferrari And Alfa Romeo

Right now in a crucial Q4 where Tesla is rumored for inclusion into the S&P500, they really can't be distracted validating track mode for a configuration they are not selling right now.

No track mode to 3P- "right now" doesnt mean "never."

Anyway, I just had a thought exercise:

Why can't the AWD cars get track mode? The hardware is the same? AWD can go around a track just as well as the 3P-, so there is no reason not to offer it to those cars as well.

3P+ has actual differences on top of motor software adjustments.

See what I mean?

 

[caskater47]

One thing to keep in mind regarding track mode is that it was developed and validated on the 3P+.

If the coding is ready to go, it made sense to release it right away.

The main headline on TMC right now is:

Tesla Model 3 Performance Track Mode Rushes Past Ferrari And Alfa Romeo

Right now in a crucial Q4 where Tesla is rumored for inclusion into the S&P500, they really can't be distracted validating track mode for a configuration they are not selling right now.

No track mode to 3P- "right now" doesnt mean "never."

Anyway, I just had a thought exercise:

Why can't the AWD cars get track mode? The hardware is the same? AWD can go around a track just as well as the 3P-, so there is no reason not to offer it to those cars as well.

3P+ has actual differences on top of motor software adjustments.

See what I mean?

I see what you mean but my point this entire time had been they should have never sold a Performance car without performance ready parts. In other words the now defunct base trim should have never gone to market. Or they should have put the upgraded functional parts in the base and left out the cosmetic pieces that people didn't want (20" wheels).

Tesla is completely in the wrong to have sold this version of the car at all when they knowingly advertised features it could never have.

 

[Roys3]

3P+
Black paint
White seats

Same config is 5500 cheaper today though with no FUSC.

My background is Economics so I am very cognizant at looking at the macro picture and not just my individual household.

As a household I took the maximum loss possible. Same config 60 days later is over $6000 cheaper when you account for outsized tax and registration fees.

I can recoup 5000 of that at an expense, give up something that was previously sold to me as part of a package. Pretty crappy.

Macro wise, there is no way for Tesla to run their business that can please everyone all the time.
That is why we sign MVPA. We got what we paid for.

A 3P- is a AWD car that has a 0-60 of 3.5

A 3P+ is an AWD car that has a 0-60 of 3.5, higher top speed, performance suspension, BBK, and some cosmetic enhancements.

Looking at the game theory, which Model 3 package that EVERYONE had equal opportunity to buy would ensure you 100% of all bells and whistles applicable to the highest end Model 3s. 3P+

3P-?? You take your chances. You didn’t pay for the VIP package yet expect the same VIP perks.

It’s irrelevant if you planned on aftermarket changes of your P3-. How can Tesla possibly account for that?

Tesla could have avoided all controversy entirely by just doing two things:
1.) Mention future unspecified upgrades exclusive to PUP package vehicles.
2.) Force bundle PUP and raise the whole price by $2500. Tesla makes $2500 more per car and any griping is too small to get this momentum.

Tesla made tons of mistakes in pricing, strategy, and messaging. Any unlisted features, they can offer to any trim at any time.

You got what you paid for. Tesla owes us nothing and can offer any deal to anyone as they see fit.

No one has any options other than

1.) Wait for the official terms, policies, conditions.
2.) Hope Tesla can be generous.

If I had one request that would make everyone happy is to offer gratis to early adopters new software no one could have bought. LUDACRIS.

5000 charge to new buyers. Call it a day.

Or transferable car based FUSC. That would actually make the new buyers envious and no immediate impact to Tesla $ wise.

Lots I can agree with there. But -

If I were Tesla and that "OOPS, we screwed up!" feeling had hit I would have immediately brought the prices back to where they were. If they really wanted to gift stuff to new top-of-the-line Model 3 buyers, then do it for those waiting in line the longest - those in Europe and other countries. $5K per car goes a long way to covering shipping costs! Keep the U.S. price stable until competition emerges.

Now they have to do damage control and lose money and good will. Stop doing that *sugar*!

 

[MXWing]

I see what you mean but my point this entire time had been they should have never sold a Performance car without performance ready parts. In other words the now defunct base trim should have never gone to market. Or they should have put the upgraded functional parts in the base and left out the cosmetic pieces that people didn't want (20" wheels).

Tesla is completely in tge wrong to have sold this version of the car at all when they knowingly advertised features it could never have.

Looking at things objectively, what does Performance mean? When ordering on the web site, performance was identical to an AWD car that is 1 second faster. That’s it.

Track mode was not advertised for it. Track mode was not advertised on the ordering page either for 3P+. Tesla could release it to one trim, two trims or no trims.

You want to know what’s the craziest? Tesla originally sold 3P+ only. They just have gotten some feedback to where people wanted to get the 3.5 car but wouldn’t or couldn’t pay the 3P+ price.

Thus the 3P- option was born and is a mistake that keeps on giving because Tesla managed the product release poorly. Managed the communication poorly.

I actually got hit the hardest with the “too much, too soon drop”. 5K base price and 500 on the seats. My free black stayed free while other colors went up.

I’ve actually argued both sides passionately and I realized why:

In the early part of the thread, all the energy was from TSLA share holders that said FU to the early adopters.

TSLA needs the owners as much as the owners need TSLA.

That was wrong and Tesla should do something (even if no legal obligation to do so.

Those FU to car owners I just care about the stock people have moved on.

Now the pendulum is the other way to where it’s Tesla that seemingly owes everything to people who already agreed to published terms.

I think we are just splitting hairs. We agree Tesla screwed up. Something is also owed to the early adopters - not by contract but through goodwill Only discussion is what’s is owed.

Bad news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their response.

Good news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their responses.

If I were to take a stab I see this happening once everything plays out.

1.) Track mode to all P+ and P-just because Tesla just wants to put the issue away. It might come up with some caveats and obviously Tesla has to work some software to make it happen.

2.) Tesla offers FUSC/5000 option to 3P+. Those actually paid 5,000 more in cash so was hit the hardest.

3.) Free FUSC to all P- or P+ except for P+ who exchanged it for $5,000.

With less certainty,

4.) Tesla doesn’t retrofit any P- cars for any price. Just due to impossible logistics. Though Tesla knows something we don’t - exact number of 3P- in circulation. Maybe it’s sold as 5000-7500 just for good will. Do not expect it to be free even if the price dropped recently on a factory 3P+ build.

And the issue I too realize got more squirrelly over time.
It’s not just the 5000 price drop that everyone is worried about - now focus is also on the future of the 3P- platform as well. All Tesla advertises for 3P- was that it was AWD+. Though people are understandably hurt, feel screwed and a resolution I hope can be found to address that as well.

I own TSLA, and also a car owner. It’s a symbiotic relationship that needs to advance together.

Neither survives on its own. I was rooting for Tesla private. They can take all the time they want to make people happy without limitations of 3Q, 4Q etc.

 

[dww12]

I opted out of PUP because at t the time I ordered it was described as a pure cosmetic package. There was no indication that there were diff brakes, suspension, rotors and especially no indication that it would be required for Track Mode. Otherwise I would have paid for it. You don't need 20" wheels to track a car, nor do you need a spoiler or aluminum pedals but you do need the rest. They failed to represent what PUP offered and when I aksed my delivery specialists they confirmed it was cosmetic only. I made the best decision I could given the information I had. They simply lied.

Exactly. “Red” brakes, 2pc rotors. No specs listed. I asked sales rep about TM after I ordered, “yes you get it”, I asked at delivery “yes, you get it”, Elon tweeted “yes, you get it”. What do the release notes say “no you don’t”... And you paid more, and you may not get the “refund” or P+ parts. It’s the most depreciated model 3, how hard is it to make it right? $5k back and it’s the 3D+ Tesla knew it was selling or install the hardware and make it the 3P we thought we bought.

 

[caskater47]

Looking at things objectively, what does Performance mean? When ordering on the web site, performance was identical to an AWD car that is 1 second faster. That’s it.

Track mode was not advertised for it. Track mode was not advertised on the ordering page either for 3P+. Tesla could release it to one trim, two trims or no trims.

You want to know what’s the craziest? Tesla originally sold 3P+ only. They just have gotten some feedback to where people wanted to get the 3.5 car but wouldn’t or couldn’t pay the 3P+ price.

Thus the 3P- option was born and is a mistake that keeps on giving because Tesla managed the product release poorly. Managed the communication poorly.

I actually got hit the hardest with the “too much, too soon drop”. 5K base price and 500 on the seats. My free black stayed free while other colors went up.

I’ve actually argued both sides passionately and I realized why:

In the early part of the thread, all the energy was from TSLA share holders that said FU to the early adopters.

TSLA needs the owners as much as the owners need TSLA.

That was wrong and Tesla should do something (even if no legal obligation to do so.

Those FU to car owners I just care about the stock people have moved on.

Now the pendulum is the other way to where it’s Tesla that seemingly owes everything to people who already agreed to published terms.

I think we are just splitting hairs. We agree Tesla screwed up. Something is also owed to the early adopters - not by contract but through goodwill Only discussion is what’s is owed.

Bad news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their response.

Good news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their responses.

If I were to take a stab I see this happening once everything plays out.

1.) Track mode to all P+ and P-just because Tesla just wants to put the issue away. It might come up with some caveats and obviously Tesla has to work some software to make it happen.

2.) Tesla offers FUSC/5000 option to 3P+. Those actually paid 5,000 more in cash so was hit the hardest.

3.) Free FUSC to all P- or P+ except for P+ who exchanged it for $5,000.

With less certainty,

4.) Tesla doesn’t retrofit any P- cars for any price. Just due to impossible logistics. Though Tesla knows something we don’t - exact number of 3P- in circulation. Maybe it’s sold as 5000-7500 just for good will. Do not expect it to be free even if the price dropped recently on a factory 3P+ build.

We are splitting hairs here but the orignal push against the original single trim build was because nobody wanted the wheels. So they ditched the wheels to appease people and probably one they realized the 18s wouldn't work with the brakes they just ditched those too. Or maybe they actually thought from the beginning it was a good idea to sell a AWD with software upgrade.

However you're wrong that they didn't market P3D with Track Mode features. When they announced track mode towards the beginning of the year they made no effort to distinguish it between the options. It was just something the P3D would get. Just because it wasn't listed on their website doesn't take away from the fact that they advertised it via Twitter, news media and other outlets. By your logic then any magic drug commercial you see on TV that advertised you becoming immensely wealthy after taking it would be legal so long as their website or bottle label made no such claim. This isn't how it works.

I think there should be an option 5. Tesla offers buyback of all P3D- cars or a replacement that includes PUP.

 

[MXWing]

Exactly. “Red” brakes, 2pc rotors. No specs listed. I asked sales rep about TM after I ordered, “yes you get it”, I asked at delivery “yes, you get it”, Elon tweeted “yes, you get it”. What do the release notes say “no you don’t”... And you paid more, and you may not get the “refund” or P+ parts. It’s the most depreciated model 3, how hard is it to make it right? $5k back and it’s the 3D+ Tesla knew it was selling or install the hardware and make it the 3P we thought we bought.

So why can’t AWD owners ask to pay 4000 more for 3.5 second to make 3P- spec? Why can’t they have track mode?

Any pricing pressure on a higher level trim depresses prices for lower trims.

RWD owners have a legitimate beef as well.

Where does it end?

Tesla’s best possible action at this point is to say nothing and do nothing.

What’s you signed is what you signed.

Be thankful they are still entertaining something.

 

[caskater47]

So why can’t AWD owners ask to pay 4000 more for 3.5 second to make 3P- spec? Why can’t they have track mode?

Any pricing pressure on a higher level trim depresses prices for lower trims.

RWD owners have a legitimate beef as well.

Where does it end?

Tesla’s best possible action at this point is to say nothing and do nothing.

What’s you signed is what you signed.

Be thankful they are still entertaining something.

And if they do nothing that's when people get angry. When you do nothing that's when class action lawsuits start.

Why shouldn't AWD owners be offered a 4K software upgrade for faster 0-60? Maybe they should buy its not the same situation. This situation is more like if a person bought the AWD and instead was given RWD with the software patch for 4.5s 0-60. They bought AWD, not.a patched RWD. I bought a P3D, not a patched AWD. There's a huge difference.

 

[dww12]

So why can’t AWD owners ask to pay 4000 more for 3.5 second to make 3P- spec? Why can’t they have track mode?

Any pricing pressure on a higher level trim depresses prices for lower trims.

RWD owners have a legitimate beef as well.

Where does it end?

Tesla’s best possible action at this point is to say nothing and do nothing.

What’s you signed is what you signed.

Be thankful they are still entertaining something.

It ends with 3P-, which after a $5k refund would still be $4k more than a 3D. As it stands 3P- is the same $ as the current 3P+ and 3P+ that are getting a refund, but without TM or the + parts that were never listed as being required, but apparently are. I have no problem with a 3D paying $4k to get 3.5, I am sure a 3D can do it. What I signed was for a Performance that would have track mode, what I have is a Performance that 2 days after TM release doesn’t have it, and acording to the release notes, it shouldn’t.

 

[tomas]

I’m still happy with my P3D-/AWD+ whatever people want to call it. I got what I paid for. If Tesla wants to compensate with a refund or FSD, I will take it. If not, I’m still happy with my car and will continue on.

P3D stealth. Minus is BS

 

[Roys3]

Looking at things objectively, what does Performance mean? When ordering on the web site, performance was identical to an AWD car that is 1 second faster. That’s it.

Track mode was not advertised for it. Track mode was not advertised on the ordering page either for 3P+. Tesla could release it to one trim, two trims or no trims.

You want to know what’s the craziest? Tesla originally sold 3P+ only. They just have gotten some feedback to where people wanted to get the 3.5 car but wouldn’t or couldn’t pay the 3P+ price.

Thus the 3P- option was born and is a mistake that keeps on giving because Tesla managed the product release poorly. Managed the communication poorly.

I actually got hit the hardest with the “too much, too soon drop”. 5K base price and 500 on the seats. My free black stayed free while other colors went up.

I’ve actually argued both sides passionately and I realized why:

In the early part of the thread, all the energy was from TSLA share holders that said FU to the early adopters.

TSLA needs the owners as much as the owners need TSLA.

That was wrong and Tesla should do something (even if no legal obligation to do so.

Those FU to car owners I just care about the stock people have moved on.

Now the pendulum is the other way to where it’s Tesla that seemingly owes everything to people who already agreed to published terms.

I think we are just splitting hairs. We agree Tesla screwed up. Something is also owed to the early adopters - not by contract but through goodwill Only discussion is what’s is owed.

Bad news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their response.

Good news is Tesla hasn’t finalized their responses.

If I were to take a stab I see this happening once everything plays out.

1.) Track mode to all P+ and P-just because Tesla just wants to put the issue away. It might come up with some caveats and obviously Tesla has to work some software to make it happen.

2.) Tesla offers FUSC/5000 option to 3P+. Those actually paid 5,000 more in cash so was hit the hardest.

3.) Free FUSC to all P- or P+ except for P+ who exchanged it for $5,000.

With less certainty,

4.) Tesla doesn’t retrofit any P- cars for any price. Just due to impossible logistics. Though Tesla knows something we don’t - exact number of 3P- in circulation. Maybe it’s sold as 5000-7500 just for good will. Do not expect it to be free even if the price dropped recently on a factory 3P+ build.

And the issue I too realize got more squirrelly over time.
It’s not just the 5000 price drop that everyone is worried about - now focus is also on the future of the 3P- platform as well. All Tesla advertises for 3P- was that it was AWD+. Though people are understandably hurt, feel screwed and a resolution I hope can be found to address that as well.

I own TSLA, and also a car owner. It’s a symbiotic relationship that needs to advance together.

Neither survives on its own. I was rooting for Tesla private. They can take all the time they want to make people happy without limitations of 3Q, 4Q etc.

Just want to say that your "3.)" is useless to me as a P- owner. I already have FUSC.
I say to Tesla: Make the iconic aero-wheeled Tesla great again! You can do it!

 

[tomas]

3P+
Black paint
White seats

Same config is 5500 cheaper today though with no FUSC.

My background is Economics so I am very cognizant at looking at the macro picture and not just my individual household.

As a household I took the maximum loss possible. Same config 60 days later is over $6000 cheaper when you account for outsized tax and registration fees.

I can recoup 5000 of that at an expense, give up something that was previously sold to me as part of a package. Pretty crappy.

Macro wise, there is no way for Tesla to run their business that can please everyone all the time.
That is why we sign MVPA. We got what we paid for.

A 3P- is a AWD car that has a 0-60 of 3.5

A 3P+ is an AWD car that has a 0-60 of 3.5, higher top speed, performance suspension, BBK, and some cosmetic enhancements.

Looking at the game theory, which Model 3 package that EVERYONE had equal opportunity to buy would ensure you 100% of all bells and whistles applicable to the highest end Model 3s. 3P+

3P-?? You take your chances. You didn’t pay for the VIP package yet expect the same VIP perks.

It’s irrelevant if you planned on aftermarket changes of your P3-. How can Tesla possibly account for that?

Tesla could have avoided all controversy entirely by just doing two things:
1.) Mention future unspecified upgrades exclusive to PUP package vehicles.
2.) Force bundle PUP and raise the whole price by $2500. Tesla makes $2500 more per car and any griping is too small to get this momentum.

Tesla made tons of mistakes in pricing, strategy, and messaging. Any unlisted features, they can offer to any trim at any time.

You got what you paid for. Tesla owes us nothing and can offer any deal to anyone as they see fit.

No one has any options other than

1.) Wait for the official terms, policies, conditions.
2.) Hope Tesla can be generous.

If I had one request that would make everyone happy is to offer gratis to early adopters new software no one could have bought. LUDACRIS.

5000 charge to new buyers. Call it a day.

Or transferable car based FUSC. That would actually make the new buyers envious and no immediate impact to Tesla $ wise.

Wow. I asked you a yes no question and now I gotta read a book?

 

[MXWing]

Just want to say that your "3.)" is useless to me as a P- owner. I already have FUSC.
I say to Tesla: Make the iconic aero-wheeled Tesla great again! You can do it!

It’s useless to me as well due to me having it placing an order June 26th.

Considering you paid 5000 less, what do you expect over someone who paid 5000 more?

Everyone wants what is best for THEM.

Best for me is is 5000 goodwill credit while letting me keep FUSC being that early first adopter. Not expecting that. Will have to likely settle for the arbitrage difference between 5000 - SC used for life of car.

 

[MXWing]

We are splitting hairs here but the orignal push against the original single trim build was because nobody wanted the wheels. So they ditched the wheels to appease people and probably one they realized the 18s wouldn't work with the brakes they just ditched those too. Or maybe they actually thought from the beginning it was a good idea to sell a AWD with software upgrade.

However you're wrong that they didn't market P3D with Track Mode features. When they announced track mode towards the beginning of the year they made no effort to distinguish it between the options. It was just something the P3D would get. Just because it wasn't listed on their website doesn't take away from the fact that they advertised it via Twitter, news media and other outlets. By your logic then any magic drug commercial you see on TV that advertised you becoming immensely wealthy after taking it would be legal so long as their website or bottle label made no such claim. This isn't how it works.

I think there should be an option 5. Tesla offers buyback of all P3D- cars or a replacement that includes PUP.

Track mode was designed for and validated for 3P+. Anyone who consumed media saw no track testing with 18 inch aeros.

Hate the wheels, buy the 3P+, and replace with your desired setup. You have to sacrifice a bit if you want it all.

Tesla marketing sucks
Tesla product strategy sucks
Tesla product management sucks
Tesla’s control of Elon’s tweets sucks

If track mode was not on your MVPA I don’t think it means anything. Elon would be fighting multiple lawsuits DAILY if he was held to every single thing he tweeted about.

What this means is Tesla can decide to just pull track mode from 3P+ tomorrow and I couldn’t sue.

What is best for your “class” is to retrofit or wipe your vehicle from existence. I get it.

Though TSLA would veto that so your idea is DOA.

I think you do get track mode anyway.. Tesla wants to move past this I am sure. Doesn’t cost them anything to do it. Though again - you won’t find a any “track” Tesla’s being 3P- so that was a gigantic leap on your part to expect all the bells and whistles for suspension, brakes, tires, wheels, rotors, shared with a 3MR.

 

[brianman]

It’s useless to me as well due to me having it placing an order June 26th.

Considering you paid 5000 less, what do you expect over someone who paid 5000 more?

Everyone wants what is best for THEM.

Best for me is is 5000 goodwill credit while letting me keep FUSC being that early first adopter. Not expecting that. Will have to likely settle for the arbitrage difference between 5000 - SC used for life of car.

I've got one of those "before referrals available" cars with FUSC, too. Seems a bit odd to ask me to give up FUSC to get the same deal as someone who ordered after that early jump. Considering I paid for EAP and FUSC, no "power ups" in the Autopilot realm make sense for Beatrice.

I'm looking at an opportunity cost of 1 referral, and $5000 quick depreciation.

So far Tesla's really dropped the ball on making any M3P customer feeling "whole" so far. /shrug


I've got bigger problems though...
I've been waiting 6 days for brake pads to get my car back to road worthy.

 

[caskater47]

Everyone wants what is best for THEM.

You're right. There's also a pretty easy way to fix this imo.

If this were my bussiness I would:

1. Give P3D+ buyers $5k refund. No strings attached.
2. Give P3D- buyers one of the following :
A. $5k refund. No strings attached.
B. Buyback the car for total price paid (including tax/title)
C. Free retrofit or replacement P3D+

Why would I do this?

It was less than two months since cars started being delivered. Most companies warrant initial quality for 60-90 days on products. That's standard market expectation.

A refund is an obvious low impact method to combat bad customer satisfaction.

Buyback/Retrofit/Replacement removes all deprecated vehicles from the road. It stabilizes the value and market by eliminating confusion and uncertainty amongst buyers. It provides additionally needed goodwill.

Further, if the worst case was that I had to produce two cars for every one I sold then that is cheaper than the hit I'll receive from the bad publicity, potential lawsuits, government oversight and liklihood of killing future sales as a result of my bad decision.

Could I get by without doing those things? Sure. Would I still become profitable if refused to be the good guy? Probably. Would I succeed in my goal to convert the world to electric and win the hearts and minds of consumers across the globe after having given my earliest adopters a severe beating to their wallet and goodwill? Not a chance...

 

[dww12]

Track mode was designed for and validated for 3P+. Anyone who consumed media saw no track testing with 18 inch aeros.

Hate the wheels, buy the 3P+, and replace with your desired setup. You have to sacrifice a bit if you want it all.

Tesla marketing sucks
Tesla product strategy sucks
Tesla product management sucks
Tesla’s control of Elon’s tweets sucks

If track mode was not on your MVPA I don’t think it means anything. Elon would be fighting multiple lawsuits DAILY if he was held to every single thing he tweeted about.

What this means is Tesla can decide to just pull track mode from 3P+ tomorrow and I couldn’t sue.

What is best for your “class” is to retrofit or wipe your vehicle from existence. I get it.

Though TSLA would veto that so your idea is DOA.

I think you do get track mode anyway.. Tesla wants to move past this I am sure. Doesn’t cost them anything to do it. Though again - you won’t find a any “track” Tesla’s being 3P- so that was a gigantic leap on your part to expect all the bells and whistles for suspension, brakes, tires, wheels, rotors, shared with a 3MR.

3P- that are actually tracked will have MPP upgrade kit and have larger, slotted 2pc rotors than 3P+. P3- that want to drift every now and then will have stock tires that make it easier and keep their w/mi lower. Track mode was not listed at all with the PUO, it is now. Tesla has corrected what was wrong, showing that those with P3- that are upset are right.

 

[P85_DA]

earliest adopters a severe beating to their wallet and goodwill? Not a chance...

Hate to disappoint buddy u are not an early adopter ..try owning one since 2012 ..u spent more time b*tchjng on this thread than enjoying what u have ..

 

[TANGO SUKKA]

I see what you mean but my point this entire time had been they should have never sold a Performance car without performance ready parts. In other words the now defunct base trim should have never gone to market. Or they should have put the upgraded functional parts in the base and left out the cosmetic pieces that people didn't want (20" wheels).

Tesla is completely in the wrong to have sold this version of the car at all when they knowingly advertised features it could never have.

yeah, it should have been awd+ and performance, not performance and performane+