Not trying to be a wise guy here, but my question would be:What gap needed to be stopped He says it is not about safety but the ability to reduce the risk. Then why up it by less than an inch? Why not two? Or fifteen? And why do it in such an underhanded way with no communication, no release notes, and no apologies? If I were concerned about clearance I would have kept my pickup!
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Petition to rollback 5.8s suspension behavior modification at high speeds
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mknox
Well-Known Member
For me, 5.8 is a big improvement over 4.5, and the suspension thing has not impacted me in any way over the past few days of highway driving.
Having said that, I think updates should be optional (to a point) and there should be some sort of rollback capability. I can see the need to keep withing, say, one or two release versions or it would just get too difficult for Tesla to manage.
Having said that, I think updates should be optional (to a point) and there should be some sort of rollback capability. I can see the need to keep withing, say, one or two release versions or it would just get too difficult for Tesla to manage.
I think managing the ability to rollback on demand can actually be a non-trivial amount of effort (not saying it can't be done). But agreed that they should make updates fully optional, with all changes fully disclosed very clearly.
RoverS
Banned
all i know is that i do NOT want my Model S to catch on fire.
in fact, i don't want most things i own to catch on fire.
in fact, i don't want most things i own to catch on fire.
NigelM
Recovering Member
Agreed. There's a lesson for Tesla here in terms of communications process and not just to owners; the varying answers, and lack of answers, from Tesla staff over the last 3 days proves that even they didn't really know what was going on.
I care more about getting my auto tilt mirrors back. (I actually haven't tried with 5.8 yet) Once I get those I'll start asking about getting my car to lower at speed again.
NigelM
Recovering Member
I'll agree with that also which is why I think it it's fine, and even necessary, that Tesla gets feedback otherwise they'll never improve in the long run.
teslasguy
MSP P#1117
Auto tilt mirros have never gone away. They did get reset in one of the releases though, so I had to set them again. No big deal.
Ah, they did if you got a 2012 model with cloth seats! They went away permanently with 4.X because the auto tilt was tied in with driver profiles, which I don't have.
AC1K
Member
this has already been addressed
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/mission-tesla
users will be able to change come a Jan update.
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/mission-tesla
users will be able to change come a Jan update.
Vger
Active Member
Indeed, and let's all give Mr. Musk credit, if not huge props, for addressing the issue with cast-iron balls and platinum ethics.
Krugerrand
Meow
Because it's not all about you, that's why. There's a much bigger picture here, like the survival of Tesla and what they are trying to do for all of us and future generations.
At first the pettiness displayed over the last couple of weeks was mildly entertaining, then disappointing, and now it's just downright 1st grader temper tantrum territory. Way to give the naysayers and media enough fodder to last a lifetime. Tesla is fighting for its life here and fighting for the lives of your grandchildren and you just keep wanting to pee all over it. Keep it up and some of you may just get your wish of seeing Elon throw in the towel. If he does that, you'll have more to complain about then a two month wait for optional suspension height at highway speeds.
i don't get all this petition noise.... what is the panic about 3/4" of ride height (or whatever it is)??
what is the concern here? slightly higher coefficient of drag?? a couple fewer miles of range on the highway? you'll get it back in a couple months. is driver safety and major PR fire management not worth a slight (slight....) sacrifice?
seems like much ado to me...... let the guy run his company for a second why don'tcha.
what is the concern here? slightly higher coefficient of drag?? a couple fewer miles of range on the highway? you'll get it back in a couple months. is driver safety and major PR fire management not worth a slight (slight....) sacrifice?
seems like much ado to me...... let the guy run his company for a second why don'tcha.
NigelM
Recovering Member
This is a recurring theme with Tesla, from the very first day I placed my order. It's obvious that they will never learn this lesson, and to them it *is* all about them, and not us. Read all of the "lack of communication" threads in the ordering and delivery forum. It's embarrassing, and it continues after delivery. The Tesla staff are kept in the dark with intent, as truthful communication with owners can do Tesla no good, in their minds. I love my car, but I don't love the company. I think Elon Musk is a genius, and one of the few people I look up to in the world, but this company has problems, and I don't mind talking to the press about them, because it's the truth.
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