WingFoiling
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I like the update.
You all sound like a bunch of Karens.
You all sound like a bunch of Karens.
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Speaking solely for myself, I don't think "adapting" should mean to re-learn the most basic functions that you use nearly every time you drive to use 2-4 touches where 1 used to work. And I know I'm not alone. This "update" riled my wife up big time. Tesla needs to be more attentive to those who use the car as a functioning vehicle as well as those who use it for mobile entertainment. Complaints aside, the changes are incredibly tone deaf to me.I like the update. There could be some improvements, and I’m sure they will improve it.
This is just about a bunch of folks that don’t like change, and can’t adapt quickly.
Give it time, learn the new software, and be patient for improvements.
Sheesh.
Agree,100% agree on these- they weren't even taking up screen space unless you asked for em with a swipe, both are now a full level deeper to get to, not a good change at all.
Haven't played with this much in 11, but I always leave on auto anyway, and pressing the end of the stalk would bring the setting up directly (though I never really needed to change it)- does it no longer do that?
You can pin dashcam to the bottom and see it there
I've got 5 there right now I think- and looks like room to spare, given the limited things you CAN pin not sure how you're using up more spots than you have?
I think I've got USB, radio, rear view cam, dashcam, and browser (which itself brings up the whole toybox menu at top of it initially if you want it)
They have an auto setting now-- too early to know how well it works, but if it does then you'd rarely need to adjust.
That said one thing you mentioned I REALLY wish I could still pin to the bottom is the defrost.
I don't love the update visuals overall- but if they'd let me pin that, and bring back the TPMS/trip cards, I'd have no real complaints.
Preliminary thoughts after about an hour of exploring...
Pros:
- dark mode
- blind spot camera with turn signals (though it's hidden behind your hand if on the steering wheel)
- the turn signal indicators on the screen are in a better position than before the update
Cons:
- speedometer font still too small and too thin and shouldn't be jammed up against the side of the screen. It was WAY better pre Xmas 2020 when it was a bolder, larger and centered. I wish when they make changes like this, they wouldn't ram it down our throats. There should be an option to center it and make it larger/bolder like before.
- they still have warning lights down the side of the screen (behind your hand while on the steering wheel). This was obviously designed by someone sitting at a desk.
- odometer and trip meters buried deeper. The cards were much better
- tire pressures buried deeper. The cards were much better
Agree 100% on the wiper and defrost controls. I nearly crashed last night in the rain trying to find them- windshield wiper controls buried deeper The cards and/or button at the bottom is much better for wiper controls
Agree 100%! It takes way more attention from the road to heat the seats now.- the energy line (gray/green) is still unnecessarily thin. It was also significantly better pre Xmas 2020 when it was a few pixels thicker
- the dash cam icon disappeared from above the map. Why?? It wasn't in the way of anything. Problem is, sometimes the red light goes out and I have to pull the USB drive and re-insert it. Now I have to manually check in the controls section to see if it's working. This one really ticks me off (assuming the issue still exists - for me I have to pull the USB about once every week or two)
- you can't pin enough icons to the bottom of the screen (too much unused area that could be useful)
- heated seats buried in climate controls. Again this requires more attention off the road to access them. Guess that happens when the designers live in southern California.
Summary:
The driver interface was WAY better when I bought the car in fall 2020 (before the Xmas 2020 update). Since then, it requires more attention off what's important (the road ahead) and therefore it is less safe to drive the car (unless you have full self driving and have the luxury of time to hunt around for information while not looking at the road).
They should offer "classic" interface/settings or something like that for those who appreciate the superior engineering and design that keeps being replaced, just for the sake of changing to a fresh look.
I'm really disappointed that they didn't allow more customization as suggested by Elon about a year ago when so many people complained after the Xmas 2020 update. When it comes time to replace the car, I'd seriously consider leaving the brand over stuff like this (handcuffing you to "downgrades")
I like the update. There could be some improvements, and I’m sure they will improve it.
This is just about a bunch of folks that don’t like change, and can’t adapt quickly.
Give it time, learn the new software, and be patient for improvements.
Sheesh.
Thing to remember about voice commands they require a cell LTE data network connection back to the mother ship to be processed, AFAIK no voice commands are processed locally; likewise, voice commands can take several seconds to execute. I use none-time sensitive voice commands to select songs to listen to while driving, this of course also requires a data connection. Turning on the windshield defroster sometimes needs to happen instantly, when driving in bad weather, and looking away for more than a half second could lead to an accident. Also remember cell service is NOT ALWAYS available!Kinda tired of hearing "you can use voice commands for that." You shouldn't have to memorize 150 voice commands to drive a car. It's one more thing that will inhibit EV adoption, or at least push people to other manufacturers.
I hope Elon Musk is being briefed on the beef us, northerners, have with some of the drastic changes made in V.11Unfortunately that would require buying a used M3 that hadn't been updated yet. The cards are gone in v11. The trip info is in the new "trips" menu after you press the car icon on the bottom left. All the same info is there, but it will cover the entire map when open. Tire pressures can be found under the "service" menu.
And there used to be an indicator at the top of the main screen showing whether the car has cellular connectivity or not. Of course v11 removed that indication.Thing to remember about voice commands they require a cell LTE data network connection back to the mother ship to be processed, AFAIK no voice commands are processed locally; likewise, voice commands can take several seconds to execute. I use none-time sensitive voice commands to select songs to listen to while driving, this of course also requires a data connection. Turning on the windshield defroster sometimes needs to happen instantly, when driving in bad weather, and looking away for more than a half second could lead to an accident. Also remember cell service is NOT ALWAYS available!
Agree wholeheartedly.For the first time since becoming a Tesla owner, I'm not going to install a software update even though some of the improvements are worthwhile. I voted a big thumbs-down just based on the release notes. My initial reaction on reading those was that Tesla design team seems to be getting way too far removed from their customer base. Comments on this post confirm my feeling that I would really miss easy access to the odo/performance and TPIS cards, which I look at quite frequently. Also I don't want to activate wipers on a dry windshield just to check if I have left them in auto or a manual setting, and I'm not going to distract myself by digging around in a menu to access the wiper card. I adjust seat heater settings numerous times per day in winter - show me any other car that doesn't allow one-touch operation for those controls. I don't understand why Tesla thinks we need such a big navigation screen. The only area of interest to me is the top, which is where I'm headed. What's behind me is history. If I want to see more around my location, I can shrink the view. As far as I'm concerned, the bottom of the screen is available for obstruction any time.