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Not trying to keep this off-topic (though, not trying to put it back on) but yes, it's possible. Sometimes it's really easy, especially if you're not the parent. The parent has many roles in the child's eyes, while a grandparent, a stranger on a plane, a teacher, etc., typically have one, which is that of an elder's authority.

I'm fortunate to have two kids who are completely different. If I had two like my first, I'd think as you do, that you can just ask. I'd also think that my parenting methods were near ideal. However, I learned quickly that we're born with a lot of who we are. Kids (people, really) respond differently to guidance. My first can be asked to do something, told why, and that's it. Maybe a firm voice if it's not sinking in immediately. My second isn't the same.

That said, I did find something that works with regard to seat back kicking (see, I'm coming back around). I gave the car a personality. Sparky has a deep voice and is very friendly. And Sparky does NOT like to be kicked. It doesn't make him mad, it just makes him really, really sad. So my seat backs are actually in pretty great shape most of the time.

TL;DR - we're all different. I don't judge parents or kids based on my personal experience, nor do I assume the same tactics will work with them. But.. there's almost always some way to get through.

i would add to the conversation that cars can be replaced and repaired. People are much harder to replace and repair. I long ago realized my cars are a tool to be used and enjoyed. Life is too short to get worried about things that can be fixed when needed. Treat it with respect. Take care of it but don't obsess over little things that can be fixed when needed.

Now time to vacume out the sand from our few days at the beach then on to the next adventure. It is a tool, use it and enjoy it. There will be plenty of tools in your lifetime.
 
No AM radio? Oh no. What am I going to do after I've gone through all of my cassette tapes?

This thing has a CD player at least, right?


Try this saw in posted in one of the forums: On the music screen, go to "Internet", then "Tune In", then "Local Radio" then scroll all the way down past all the FM stations. then you will see a list of all the AM stations
 
One question for those who have the Ultra White Seats, does daily use with blue jeans cause color transfer? If not, then just post the answer if and when it happens and how long you had the vehicle without cleaning the synthetic material.

I don't have it yet but I got it from one does that Mr Clean magic cleaner is great for wiping any strains off it. It does not use any chemicals so should be safe for the material.
 
I don't have it yet but I got it from one does that Mr Clean magic cleaner is great for wiping any strains off it. It does not use any chemicals so should be safe for the material.
I'd be cautious using a magic eraser on the leather -- it doesn't "use" any chemicals, but the substance, or chemical it is made out of, cleans by abrasion -- it is like very fine sand paper.
 
I don't have it yet but I got it from one does that Mr Clean magic cleaner is great for wiping any strains off it. It does not use any chemicals so should be safe for the material.

As noted above, not recommended at all. The abrasives will remove not only the protective coating that Tesla has applied to the white seats, but will wear away at the material itself. ONR (optimum no rinse) is what we use to do a light cleaning on Tesla interiors. ONR has removed blue jean dye transfer from gray and tan Tesla leather.
 
The Signature X delivery is going to be better than the Sig S in many ways. The Service Centers are doing several inspection passes and adjustments after arrival. They are tasked with checking on, and re-doing any finishing touches from the factory. Yes they are all hand built, but the Service Center folks are the real heroes that make the Signature (and some Founders) Xes as perfect as they can be. Their feedback to Fremont gets processed for the production line and helps everyone. If you haven't bought your local Service Center team's lunch, I highly recommend it. This especially goes for anyone that is expecting a delivery and/or is a stockholder.
 
Isn't there a forum somewhere for verified owners? Maybe it was on the Tesla forums. If there is such a forum somewhere, that would be another option for where to have a thread like this.
There's a Model X owner's group on Facebook. Closed group. Someone invited/approved Anton Wahlman to that group. It is no longer a Model X "owner's group." (Wahlman is one of the most negative of the Seeking Alpha TSLA shorts).

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No AM radio? Oh no. What am I going to do after I've gone through all of my cassette tapes?

This thing has a CD player at least, right?
AM radio is very handy in NYC where we get traffic and weather every 10 minutes on a couple of stations. And yeah, I know most or all of the AM radio stations are probably available on TuneIn and hopefully the slight delay in streaming won't be annoying. Also, the Waze app is great for avoiding traffic. Too bad Tesla can't offer Waze on the 17-inch touch screen with supercharger data built in. Maybe a future software enhancement?
 
There's a Model X owner's group on Facebook. Closed group. Someone invited/approved Anton Wahlman to that group. It is no longer a Model X "owner's group." (Wahlman is one of the most negative of the Seeking Alpha TSLA shorts).
Nope. Dean Miller, the group admin, for some reason posted the Wahlman story. Having said that, he does allow anyone to join. When I wanted to join he did not contact me to verify that I own a Model X or have a reservation. So yes, it's a closed group, but not necessarily a closely guarded closed group :)
 
Jerome G

I don't expect Jerome back. Hasn't a replacement already been hired?
My expectation is that Tesla will continue to try hard to meet expectations but will continue to struggle with lacking communications and random changes in direction and no consistency - just what we saw before the new year. Sigs delivered I'm mostly random order after #1&2 were taken care of and terrible communication with the owners.

What makes you say that? Was "taking a leave" just a cover for quitting? If that is the case who is in charge of the X roll out issues?
 
Nope. Dean Miller, the group admin, for some reason posted the Wahlman story. Having said that, he does allow anyone to join. When I wanted to join he did not contact me to verify that I own a Model X or have a reservation. So yes, it's a closed group, but not necessarily a closely guarded closed group :)
Not sure which "Wahlman story" you are talking about (there are so many of them, each more negative than the one before it), but as a member of the Model X owner's group on Facebook, I saw a notification message when Anton Wahlman was added to the group a few days ago. There goes the neighborhood.

Meanwhile Wahlman himself has a closed Twitter feed, which he only grants access to by request. Ooh, how exclusive!

His latest piece of trash? That the Model X is too wide. Yep, apparently that qualifies as "news" on Seeking Alpha. I'm not linking to it. It would only encourage him, and reward bad behavior.
 
Not trying to keep this off-topic (though, not trying to put it back on) but yes, it's possible. Sometimes it's really easy, especially if you're not the parent. The parent has many roles in the child's eyes, while a grandparent, a stranger on a plane, a teacher, etc., typically have one, which is that of an elder's authority.

I'm fortunate to have two kids who are completely different. If I had two like my first, I'd think as you do, that you can just ask. I'd also think that my parenting methods were near ideal. However, I learned quickly that we're born with a lot of who we are. Kids (people, really) respond differently to guidance. My first can be asked to do something, told why, and that's it. Maybe a firm voice if it's not sinking in immediately. My second isn't the same.

That said, I did find something that works with regard to seat back kicking (see, I'm coming back around). I gave the car a personality. Sparky has a deep voice and is very friendly. And Sparky does NOT like to be kicked. It doesn't make him mad, it just makes him really, really sad. So my seat backs are actually in pretty great shape most of the time.

TL;DR - we're all different. I don't judge parents or kids based on my personal experience, nor do I assume the same tactics will work with them. But.. there's almost always some way to get through.


Wise words. My 2 sons are as different as night and day. The first one will listen to reason and learn before making a mistake. The second one will only learn from the mistake. I don't have to worry about kicking the back of the seat. They are 29 and 31. It will be more about letting them drive the X. Fortunately, the "only learn by mistake" one is actually the better driver. Now the only question is whether to let the wife drive ( as if I have a choice)! This is the only car that we have owned that she has ever been excited about.
 
Wise words. My 2 sons are as different as night and day. The first one will listen to reason and learn before making a mistake. The second one will only learn from the mistake. I don't have to worry about kicking the back of the seat. They are 29 and 31. It will be more about letting them drive the X. Fortunately, the "only learn by mistake" one is actually the better driver. Now the only question is whether to let the wife drive ( as if I have a choice)! This is the only car that we have owned that she has ever been excited about.

This is why I have been advocating (unsuccessfully) for a programable 'safe mode' (think 'valet mode' with lots of programable options)
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Sure. As many know, I've qualified for a discounted Founders, fully loaded, through the referral program. I was also made an offer that would have been impossible to refuse in any case (meaning, even if I wasn't getting a Founders) from someone who wanted an early Sig X and could afford to twist my arm hard. Between the premium I'll be receiving and the discount, I've made out like a bandit (stevezzz has graciously pointed out 'you SUCK' over learning the details - old friends who keep you grounded are priceless.) Hard not to grin like a fool when I think about it. :)

As sad as I am to let it go, it is now parked and waiting for final paperwork before making its way to the new owner. Beautiful vehicle and I'm very very sad to see it go. I was lucky enough to have it in my possession for a few weeks and I'm grateful to the new owner for allowing me to lightly drive it. Can't wait for the permanent addition to my household now.
Yay Bonnie! Congratulations!

Maybe you can convince your Signature Buyer that they need a Founders MX (at a similar price) to go with their Signature MX :).
 
You can choose from three emulations:

A) 1982 Ford Escort
B) 1990 Geo Metro
C) 1984 Pontiac Fiero (for a more "sporty" allowance)

This is by FAR the funniest thing I have ever seen on this forum!!!! It's so funny, I had to show my SO (and explain it all to her since she's not a "car guy"). +99999999999999 to ohmman! Thanks so much; I literally laughed out loud for about 30 seconds!
 
I don't have it yet but I got it from one does that Mr Clean magic cleaner is great for wiping any strains off it. It does not use any chemicals so should be safe for the material.
Safe, if not used too often. Protection is better. Not sure on the Ultra White, but the leather should only be cleaned occasionally with Magic Eraser. It is so fast, but should be wiped with a clean damp (not wet) cloth afterwards to rinse. Dry with another dry clean towel immediately. I use a vacuum to pick up the small pieces of eraser left behind. Remember, occasionally only. My Model S has only been done twice in three years and...during a spill. Yes, keep one with the vehicle if you think black ink from a liquid pen will get on the leather. The Mr. Clean Magic Eraser was the only thing that worked, and in only seconds. Always daub the spill out first with a clean cloth first. When excess is wiped off, then the eraser will get the stain, including the dye transfer color from clothing worn when driving. (Sit on a seat colored towel to avoid the color transfer problem completely.)

Read the instructions on the package. I use warm water to moisten the eraser and wring the water out so no excess moisture is dripping during use. Re-rinse the dirt out as it gets dirty soon. It will only work for a short while, so use maybe one small one for the seat bottom, another for the seat top. Don't go crazy with this, just keep one handy for possible ink stains and be amazed then.
 
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